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THANKS!! 1|1|I understand BUT....(m)|klounsbury|kristilounsbury@gmail.com|16:35:08|12/11/2013|
I totally understand what you are saying but...in the original Greek that the New Testament was written in, the letter X as we know it was actually the symbol for Christ and literally the first three letters of his name.
Just a bit of trivia for the day.
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2|2|YES THE X DOES STAND FOR CHRIST.....SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOME READING|JOYHAPPYONE|DAIDOLA5@AOL.COM|19:52:49|12/11/2013|
--------------------------------------LONG TIME MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING OF THE R.S.B.B.C. AND THE R.S.B.V.J.C 3|3|i don't like the X it just takes away from the meaning of Christmas |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|19:56:42|12/11/2013|
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THANKS!! 4|4|I DON'T CARE FOR IT EITHER, BUT I MEANS THE SAME THING.......SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL|JOYHAPPYONE|DAIDOLA5@AOL.COM|20:03:13|12/11/2013|
--------------------------------------LONG TIME MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING OF THE R.S.B.B.C. AND THE R.S.B.V.J.C 5|5|TO ME it means you are Xing out CHRIST for his own birthday |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|20:15:17|12/11/2013|
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--------------------------------------LONG TIME MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING OF THE R.S.B.B.C. AND THE R.S.B.V.J.C 7|7|I write it that way to Merry X-mas|Mightymom7492|Lawaw1974@att.net|01:47:53|12/12/2013|
because I do not believe in Jesus or God. I still celebrate X-mas but not for the birth of Jesus. I celebrate it for life of my friends and family. 8|8|Ok so mow I have to ask this the Christmas holiday IS the celebration of the birth of Christ so why do people who do not |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|10:53:12|12/12/2013|
believe think they can just change the REAL TRUE meaning of it to suit their needs? I know I may get bashed for asking but it's a question that has been on my mind for years Why do those who don't believe in the TRUE meaning feel owed any part in Christmas or Hanukkah display? Thats another question I have 9|1|Christmas is not just a religious holiday...|inthesticks|jbsimon@ymail.com|11:03:17|12/12/2013|
...but is also a secular holiday. People can feel free to celebrate the Christmas Season however they wish. After all, the season is a time of peace, love, and joy -- good will towards everyone. However people celebrate the holiday should be of no concern. After all, its' the thought and the spirit of the season that is important.
I never use XMAS due to personal reasons only. I think that the shortened version of Christmas is simply laziness on societies' part. I enjoy the Christmas season for many reasons, even spiritual ones...even though I no longer attend any church or hold to any specific doctrine of faith.
So, I'll never use XMAS. I don't begrudge others from using the word however. 10|2|So if Christmas is not the celebration of Christs birth why isn't it called Nonmas or Larrymas or |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|11:09:17|12/12/2013|
Secularmas? 11|3|Mery CHRISTmas for me|angNC|memawang@nc.rr.com|11:16:48|12/12/2013|
I'm Christian so it is that way for me.
But to each it's own.I hate how CHRISTmas
is just about money.
Lydia thanks for making this statement
12|3|Good grief....GOOGLE IT|inthesticks|jbsimon@ymail.com|11:22:49|12/12/2013|
Christmas has always been celebrated among Christians and non-Christians alike. Wikipedia has much more on this subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
Many Christians today feel that they have a "lock" on the Christmas holiday because of the religious historical aspects. However, Christians are in the minority around the world, as far as religions go. And although Christians worship Christ's birth during this time, that fact does NOT give Christians sole claim to the name or the holiday. 13|1|LMAO @ Tina...Larrymas hahaha|DAVESBABYDOLL|SSTRIFF@woh.rr.com|11:50:31|12/12/2013|
oh..cye chica ! 14|1|I'll get bashed for this, but here goes. Does it really matter how anyone else wishes another Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or anything else? Who is anyone to judge on how one|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|07:40:09|12/13/2013|
Posted on Dec-13-13 at 07:40 AM (Eastern) by 108.49.148.49
celebrates a holiday? Some celebrate for religious tradition or preference, some celebrate the spirit of joy and giving, some celebrate it for the pretty lights and festivity. Does it really matter, so long as those celebrating are doing it in peace and love? I don't get it. Those who claim to be so Christian and religious making a judgement call on others is pretty petty and not a very Christian attitude at all.
I love Christmas....for the lights, the music, tradition of giving and kindness...but I don't celebrate it for religious reasons...and that's my personal preference. I believe in treating my fellow man in kindness, I make lots of donations to local charities, and food pantries, I do the Angel Trees from our local Walmart....just because I'm not celebrating Christ or God doesn't mean I'm any less of a person or am not deserving of celebrating the season or day...good grief.
I think it's insane in today's world, for anyone to criticize another just because their beliefs don't align with another's.
Just plain sad.
15|2|Very well said..I Agree !|DAVESBABYDOLL|SSTRIFF@woh.rr.com|09:44:59|12/13/2013|
s 16|3|No bashing from me, Kelly. You are 100% right. Not much "Christian" love unless you do things my way......HMMM|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|10:32:39|12/13/2013|
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17|1|Ok so you all think I am a meanie and cruel It's just that I along with many people believe that the true |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|10:52:42|12/13/2013|
reason/meaning for Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ if you want to celebrate for all those other reasons then it is your choice If you read my post you will see that my question I asked was about why some of the people who may celebrate for all those other reasons think that they are owed a part in holiday displays? More to point adding a big red A for the Atheists ? 18|2|I get where you're coming from Tina. And Lydia.|Beaglesfly|lmllr77@aol.com|17:00:24|12/13/2013|
It's interesting when a Christian has a difference of opinion and suddenly they're being mean-spirited or not very Christian-like or judgmental. So having a difference of opinion is judgmental and not Christian-like? So if you don't agree with what I believe, that means you have a different opinion about something than I do. Doesn't that make you judgmental also? (Same goes for that ridiculous phrase "close-minded". I don't believe what you believe so now I'm close-minded, but you don't believe what I believe and somehow that makes you what? Open-minded? No, just different)
Any one is welcome to celebrate anything anytime they want (well most anything), but it is kind of strange that the people that so vehemently don't want to be associated with the Christ that is Christmas still choose to call it Christmas.
People for ages have had winter festivals, but they didn't always call it Christmas.
I don't particularly like X in Christmas as it takes away the Christ to me, the main focus. And the argument that it's okay because Christians used that abbreviation way back when doesn't hold water to me because most people today don't speak greek and won't know that origin. In this world that seems to want to not be bothered with Christ, using the X in Xmas to me is just putting another depersonalization to who Jesus really is.
19|3|AMEN !! GO beaglesfly !!! |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|21:00:49|12/13/2013|
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THANKS!! 21|3|Lauren, I don't think my post or any others responding was meant to say anyone was mean-spirited, however, implying that one should celebrate the day or season because they don't have the same religious beliefs is being a bit judgemental. If the season truly is about God/Jesus, then wouldn't He WANT people to celebrate being kind to others and helping one's fellow man, no matter what their religious beliefs were?|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|23:26:26|12/13/2013|
Posted on Dec-13-13 at 11:26 PM (Eastern) by 108.49.148.49
So, yes, I do think it is rather close minded for anyone to chastise the way another celebrates for not doing it in the same manner as they. Is that being judgmental? No, not really, it's having a response to those who want to cast stones on others.
I get that there are *some* people out there that want to attack the holiday and make it completely non-religious for everyone (such as some extreme Athiests), however, I'm not referring to those people. I believe everyone should be content to celebrate in the manner in which they seek joy, peace, and kindness. I hate that in today's society people seem to run around looking for things to get insulted about. I mean really, I could care less if someone greets me with Happy Chanakuh, Merry Christmas, Feliz Navidad, etc.....it's the intent BEHIND the greeting that matters, not which religious affiliation it has with it. I get that whoever is making that greeting to me is doing so in pleasant conversational banter and wishes to wish me well. I see no reason to get all up in arms because I may not believe the same as they, nor do I see it as a reason to think they shouldn't celebrate the season, you know what I mean?
I mean really how many people run around saying Merry Christmas are doing so with the express purpose of saying Merry Christ's Birthday? Ummmmm.....I'm going to go out on a limb and say not many.....the average person making greetings on an everyday basis (outside of church) says so because they want to share in the joy of the season and wishing their fellow man well. I am willing to BET that person that says Merry Xmas in a card did that to convey their wishes of a happy holiday season to you and your loved ones....it's such a shame that some people have to really read more into it, than there really is.
And lastly, this right here is one of the very reasons our world has gotten so ridiculous....everyone has gotten afraid to converse with one another for fear of insulting another unintentionally......it's a sad day when people are afraid to share kindness and warmth with others for fear of being judged, or worse yet accused of something that was misinterpreted or not considered politically correct in the eyes of the person receiving the greeting.
I wish all of those on Refundsweepers a Very Merry Christmas and a Warm Holiday Season....let's just all try to be good to each other instead of nitpicking of what we perceive as others faults.....or misgivings.
20|1|It's not a contest about who agrees with you. It's about tolerance. It's about having the freedom practice your religion and your fellow human's right to practice his. We dont' have to be the same. We dont' have to dislike someone based on their religion or how they write Christmas.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|21:39:17|12/13/2013|
It's about coexisting on this planet with our fellow human and having simple, basic human kindness.
There would be a whole lot more happiness if we did.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
22|2|Ranalt & kellysp6637 please read!|cashcoll|cashcoll@yahoo.com|01:32:18|12/14/2013|
AMEN to you both! Totally agree with you both.
Why can't a person that gets a Christmas card from another person just be THANKFUL for it and say thanks & Merry Christmas back to that person!
JMO
Teresa
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23|3|If someone takes the time and effort and expense to send you something....anything.....criticizing it is soooooooo sad. This post may have hurt the feelings of someone that reached out to others this season. They may be unlikely to do so next season since the joy and kindness they sent out....was not well received. Blessings to all. Consider your own hearts when reaching out to crush anothers.|Barb09|Barb0969@AOL.com|14:05:06|12/14/2013|
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24|4|take the time to write out MERRY CHRISTMAS if you are going to take the time to write something in the card just hit me wrong with the X |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|14:13:03|12/14/2013|
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THANKS!! 25|1|Etiquette denotes that:|Jorainna|jorainna@aol.com|15:07:33|12/14/2013|
The 1948 Vogue's Book of Etiquette states that "'Xmas' should never be used" in greeting cards.
The word "Christmas" should always be written out.
No abbreviations should be used in a greeting card at all, according to Miss Manners.
26|2|What does MissManners say about bashing someone for doing so in a public forum in front of others? Hmmmmm....|Barb09|Barb0969@AOL.com|15:16:25|12/14/2013|
Smooches to those that sold our lifestyle for 12
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27|1|'Tis the season. I hope however you participated in this thread your words warmed your heart. Glad I am not participating at all in the season. Would hate for someone to throw back my gift over my word choices. |Barb09|Barb0969@AOL.com|15:18:28|12/14/2013|
Smooches to those that sold our lifestyle for 12
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28|2|I remember last year...and maybe on this same board....somebody complaining because a store clerk said "Happy Holidays" rather than Merry Christmas|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|15:23:00|12/14/2013|
"sigh".
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29|1|i don't think i was bashing any one i was clearly making a statement just like every one else does!!|lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|15:28:30|12/14/2013|
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THANKS!! 30|1|I don't have an issue with anyone saying/responding back to me with Happy Holidays or such my issue is with Atheists who |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|16:12:49|12/14/2013|
push and demand that they have a part in the holiday displays which I said in my orginal re to this post If I say Merry Vhristmas to one and they don't answer back that is fine to I just don't think they can have to both ways 31|2|We must not forget this is a nation of many cultures and religions|fbutte|fyb33@yahoo.com|23:08:38|12/15/2013|
Why is it that some of you are claiming Christmas as for Christians only when very little of what goes on is in fact Christian.
In fact many of the Christmas symbols are of pagan origins. Do you put up a tree? Put out wreaths? Those are pagan origins. So by putting up a tree, you are not celebrating Christ's birthday.
When Santa Claus flies all over the world giving presents to children, does he ONLY give to Christian children?
As for not speaking Greek, we do. We adopt words from different people. The ones that comes to mind are: "alpha"-males, "beta" testing, "delta" meaning change in math and science even the delta symbol is used. 32|1|AMEN!!!!!|sknott4|lovemydogs24@gmail.com|12:19:06|12/16/2013|
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33|1|Actually...|emerald9|brandaseider@yahoo.com|16:04:05|12/16/2013|
The Bible does not give the date of Jesus’ birth, nor does it say that we should celebrate his birthday. As McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopedia states: “The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of New Testament origin.”
Instead, as fbutte mentioned above, an examination of the history of Christmas exposes its roots in pagan religious rites. The Bible shows that we offend God if we try to worship him in a way that he does not approve of.—Exodus 32:5-7.
History of Christmas customs:
Celebrating Jesus’ birthday: “The early Christians did not celebrate [Jesus’] birth because they considered the celebration of anyone’s birth to be a pagan custom.”—The World Book Encyclopedia.
December 25: There is no proof that Jesus was born on that date. Church leaders likely chose this date to coincide with pagan festivals held on or around the winter solstice.
Gift-giving, feasting, partying: The Encyclopedia Americana says: “Saturnalia, a Roman feast celebrated in mid-December, provided the model for many of the merry-making customs of Christmas. From this celebration, for example, were derived the elaborate feasting, the giving of gifts, and the burning of candles.” The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that “all work and business were suspended” during Saturnalia.
Christmas lights: According to The Encyclopedia of Religion, Europeans decorated their homes “with lights and evergreens of all kinds” to celebrate the winter solstice and to combat evil spirits.
Mistletoe, holly: “The Druids ascribed magical properties to the mistletoe in particular. The evergreen holly was worshiped as a promise of the sun’s return.”—The Encyclopedia Americana.
Christmas tree: “Tree worship, common among the pagan Europeans, survived after their conversion to Christianity.” One of the ways in which tree worship survived is in the custom of “placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house in the midwinter holidays.”—Encyclopædia Britannica.
34|2|I choose to celebrate the coming of Christ everyday...|Quietwaters|Quietwaters39@hotmail.com|20:18:37|12/16/2013|
The earth is the Lords and everything in it! Man might mean something for evil, but God can use it for good. Even the days of the week are named after pagan gods, but they are still the days that God created.
The grace of the gospel equals a sign of freedom from legalism.
Rom 14:5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
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