This doesn't seem right.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
1|1|Not an HR expert, but one thing comes to mind....what is the employment position of your DD vs the other employee? ie, is the other employee a supervisor of some kind (Not necessarily your DD's supervisor)? Is the other employee salaried, while your DD is an hourly employee? Does the other employee have a contract while your DD is an "at will" employee? Just some things that popped into my head right off as to how the boss could get away with providing insurance for one employee's dependants and not another's....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:37:59|04/27/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
2|2|union rules vary by contract as well|BusterBrown|srfreezerqueen@hotmail.com|17:41:07|04/27/2012|
not sure if union shop, but if covered person is on a contract from prior years and DD is on diff, it may stipulate different things...I know our store is widely varied even tho we are less than 5 yrs old as there are employees from several diff stores there....just a thought.... 3|1|All workers are salaried workers. No union. Just seems weird. Then again, half of the stuff that goes on there is weird. Different rules for different people on different days of the week.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|18:43:20|04/27/2012|
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
4|2|Where I work, what you are offered depends on your position.|Quietwaters|Quietwaters39@hotmail.com|21:41:19|04/27/2012|
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" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
6|1|while I am not sure what is up with this, my daughter gets health coverage through the state. You can get is at any income level, the difference is how much you pay per month. It costs me $50 through the state per month, but would cost me $200 a month through payroll deduction. So check with social services in your state, and see what they say. Donna|dlpavitt|dlpavitt@att.net|10:16:32|04/28/2012|
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Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
8|2|Whoa.....ok, the threat the boss made cannot possibly be legal! That is retribution for reporting or questioning the company's policy compliance, and she is allowed to do so! And, if they are funded by govt monies, you can bet your buttons they would be required to have a compliance policy in place (compliance would include anything from HIPAA practices, mission statement, policies and procecures).|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|11:44:39|04/28/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
9|2|I think that lady needs to contact the Dept. of Labor......|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|12:22:11|04/28/2012|
Threatening to take away her bonuses if she questions or persues a legal employment matter is a form of retaliation by the employer, & I believe it violates employee rights which are protected under the Employee Retaliation & Whistleblower laws.
She should contact the Dept. of Labor which will be able to confirm this & help her proceed should she decide to persue the matter further. Her boss would be violating additional employment laws, which protect her, if he terminates or threatens to terminate her employment because of it.
Smile... it makes people wonder what you're up to!
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10|3|Exactly, Tami....Lisa, is this a privately-owned daycare? Perhaps she should research the requirements for such businesses in regards to Compliance....healthcare providers have such guidelines/laws to follow, and I would think funded education programs would too.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|12:59:23|04/28/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
11|2|Since you mentioned it is a No Child Left Behind company.....|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|13:15:26|04/28/2012|
Is this company receiving or has it received Federal funding? If so, there may be Federal laws the employer has to abide by in addition to State Labor laws, & that could put that employer in even more hot water if he's found to also be in violation of Fed. laws.
Yowza!
Smile... it makes people wonder what you're up to!
Please identify yourself in 1st email w/name/username. Due to recent problem trades, if I haven't traded w/you before, I will probably require you send your end 1st or I'll need LEGIT trade references/feedback. I will be happy to provide the same. IF you plan to hold your end til you've received mine, I will need to know that IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE trade is finalized.
12|3|Yes, they do receive Federal Funding. No,it is not a day care.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|13:19:07|04/28/2012|
editing per DD request :)
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
13|4|Oooohhh! So they may even have some DPI laws to abide by in addition to State & Fed. Labor laws.... |maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|13:36:40|04/28/2012|
Oh, boy! Could get really interesting.... If I were that boss, I'd be very hesitant to make the kind of threats that he has. And if there are any witnesses.... Uff Da!!
Definitely have that lady contact the Dept. of Labor. Best place to start!
Smile... it makes people wonder what you're up to!
Please identify yourself in 1st email w/name/username. Due to recent problem trades, if I haven't traded w/you before, I will probably require you send your end 1st or I'll need LEGIT trade references/feedback. I will be happy to provide the same. IF you plan to hold your end til you've received mine, I will need to know that IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE trade is finalized.
15|5|These companies fall under SES (supplemental education services).....start there to see what compliances they must follow!|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|14:23:10|04/28/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
14|1|Thanks ladies. I will pass along the info.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|14:23:05|04/28/2012|
My mind was so set on that it was a small company that a lot labor laws didn't apply, but I forgot that they were also federally funded.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
16|2|Lisa, there may also be a very fundamental violation if they don't have, or have not made available, the employee handbook.....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|14:23:52|04/28/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
17|3|My gut feeling is|fbutte|fyb33@yahoo.com|16:10:52|04/28/2012|
her boss is lying to her.
Insurance policies are not set up one at a time. The company signs a contract with an insurance company with standard benefit., maybe broken down into different categories such as hourly, managarial. Lacking tahat everyone is treted the same. She can verifiey this by talking to insurance company herself.
Why would her boss lie? The cost for next years contract is most likely dependent on insurance out of pocket cost this year, ergo boss wants to keep payments down.
That of couse is illegal. 18|4|Does 1 work full time and 1 work part time? Typically part time do not get benefits (see inside)|needadeal|ludlow79@aol.com|03:32:49|05/04/2012|
She should ask for the Summary Plan Description called SPD for the companies health insurance policy. The front coverage pages typically have the qualifications for the plan and who is or isn't eligible. This should be something everyone who has the insurance received. If she should be eligible and he is denying, then the company is doing a couple things:
He's jeopordizing the company medical plan by not following the rules and possibly discriminating against the person. She can contact the EEOC (free resource)and file a complaint of discrimination (if she feels she is being discriminated against based on age or sex (that would be the most common). They will investigate.
Just some info she might utilize.
Good Luck.
>Posted on Apr-28-12 at 04:10 PM (Eastern)
>by 198.24.31.109her boss is lying to
>her.
>Insurance policies are not set up one
>at a time. The company
>signs a contract with an insurance
>company with standard benefit., maybe broken
>down into different categories such as
>hourly, managarial. Lacking tahat everyone
>is treted the same. She
>can verifiey this by talking to
>insurance company herself.
>Why would her boss lie? The
>cost for next years contract is
>most likely dependent on insurance out
>of pocket cost this year, ergo
>boss wants to keep payments down.
>
>That of couse is illegal.
19|5|Babies are expensive... they go to the doctor every two months for expensive shots and such. However, many insurance plans carry a baby for a month under the mother's policy (so that the costs associated with birth, at least, are covered). She should at the very least see if her policy covers the child at least for that part. Also, if she can't get insurance for the baby otherwise, call the health department and ask them about free shots. I had to do that with my first kid when our insurance didn't cover shots.|Sara_s_Mom|IClipCoupons@gmail.com|07:54:23|05/04/2012|
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20|1|The baby-to-be is now fully insured :)|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|10:04:46|05/04/2012|
I had the worker call the EEOE and report to them verbatim what she was told and they said if the Boss didn't reconsider after telling them what the EEOE told her,
to come back and that they would be happy to take her case.
I found out the worker was told that if she insisted on the newborn coverage, SHE would find herself uninsusred.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
21|2|So, is it kosher that they yanked her insurance to cover the baby? That doesnt sound right either.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|12:52:18|05/04/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
24|3|both she and the baby to be are going to be fully insured.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|23:01:20|05/04/2012|
Boss did threaten to yank hers to insure the baby. That was before she talked to the EEOE. After she talked to the EEOE, she had a talk with the boss and he figured out what was best for him in this case :)
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
26|4|Ah, I see.....I am so glad that the boss came to see reason (wink)!|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|07:03:22|05/05/2012|
" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."
22|2|Hello....to any common person with half a brain can figure out that this is not within the law|kdrink|kdrink34@yahoo.com|12:55:34|05/04/2012|
Good for your daughter and you for helping her. There's lots of things to consider, but frankly, what in the world is her boss thinking? A boss cannot tell someone who will and who won't get insurance. That is up to the insurance company. The employee handbook policy can spell that out plain and simple. Now, assuming all is equal ( # of hours worked) with the other person, you cannot EOE rules discriminate. Sometimes there is an issue with state law re: # of employees.
If it were me, I would continue to put up the good fight AND the boss is not within the rules to retaliate by stating " you will find yourslef uninsured".
I would file the complaint with the Dept of Labor. Tell you DD coworker to start a file and write in it date, time, what was said, what boss said and keep it in a safe place. She may very well need this in the future. Then tell her that after she files the complaint to keep on keeping a file because she already has grounds to file suit and I have a feeling that it is not going to end. Depending on how 'tough' she is, she may also want to find another job where people might treat her a little kinder, but only after matters have been settled.
Curious though: Is the boss also the owner?
23|3|You usually can't insure just a child without the parent being insured|kdrink|kdrink34@yahoo.com|13:02:18|05/04/2012|
It's in the insurance rules. Usually it goes somethng like this, but again it is dependent on certain rules and how much the company pays in premiums and what the worker pays. So this is just an example.
Employee premium 100.00 month
Employee and spouse 200.00 month
Employee and child (dependent) 175.00 month (this is from one child to infiniti children)
Employee, spouse and child 300.00 month
Unless the boss took her off of the company insurnace and found some rinky dink private insurance for just child coverage. It seems real weird to me. 25|4|both are now insured.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|23:03:19|05/04/2012|
He threatened to yank hers to insure the baby. Funny thing, it was only one hundred dollars more to insure the baby.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
27|5|children are good to have on group policies because usually they are healthy|kdrink|kdrink34@yahoo.com|09:38:30|05/05/2012|
and are cheap to insure and also on a whole bring down the group costs