29 0|0|Prayers need for hubby and a dear dear friend. |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|13:27:43|12/12/2011|
Posted on Dec-12-11 at 01:27 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

Just made an appt., for hubby to see Dr., on Wed., as he has a large dark spot on his back and it's gotten bigger since 2 weeks ago, you know men they keep putting it off so now he finally wants to see a Dr., Men!!! When I first called earlier today there wasn't any appointments available until the middle of January and the I called again and someone just cancelled so needless to say I grabed it up. You talk about small miracles.
And a very dear friend (hubby went to kindergarten with him so he's known him since he was 5 years old) and it seems he has a problem with his liver they were finally able to take a piece for a biopsy as he kept filling up with fluids and they couldn't get to it for fear of him bleeding. He's suppose to find out something today. Been very nervous for days now. So any prayers for them both would be appreciated. I am a firm believer in prayers.
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Garnette member 1|1|Prayers going up for both of them, Joy.....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|13:35:04|12/12/2011|

Posted on Dec-12-11 at 01:35 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.152.114

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2|1|Praying that all turns out well for both.|Quietwaters|Quietwaters39@hotmail.com|13:48:37|12/12/2011|

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Prayers to you all. I know there are some really great people that will do it for you. It cost nothing but it really works 6|2|sending up prayers for both|BusterBrown|srfreezerqueen@hotmail.com|19:14:25|12/12/2011|

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hoping all turns out ok for both.... 7|1|Sending up prayers for your hubby & his friend.|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|19:22:24|12/12/2011|

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Posted on Dec-13-11 at 00:09 AM (Eastern) by 68.45.10.215

Cathie : ) 9|1|Sending up prayers for your DH and his friend (((HUGS)))~*~|RebekkaVA|queen_vulture@msn.com|00:10:41|12/13/2011|

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Posted on Dec-13-11 at 10:38 AM (Eastern) by 99.188.106.17

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Posted on Dec-13-11 at 01:51 PM (Eastern) by 208.61.34.161

to hear news like this but lets pray all together for some good news.


13|1|I know so well that prayers do work, that's why I'm asking for all your prayers. And I thank you very much. Off to the Dr., with hubby tomorrow, Waiting to hear from my friend about her hubby. I'm as nervous as she is. Will post when I find anything out. And I want to thank you all. |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|15:44:01|12/13/2011|

Posted on Dec-13-11 at 03:44 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

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Posted on Dec-13-11 at 06:02 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

I pray the doctors give them both good news and praying for you to have peace and be calm, I know its hard and scary when you just don't know. 15|2|Sending up prayers for both of them!|jen_ron|jenayn@yahoo.com|20:50:46|12/13/2011|

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Posted on Dec-14-11 at 06:41 AM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

he's afraid that our friend won't make it to the end of the week. So Please everyone pray so very hard for him and his wife. I am so scared for him. Thank You

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Posted on Dec-14-11 at 07:49 AM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

I pray that God bring healing, comfort and peace. 18|1|Update on hubby. We went to the Dr. yesterday and she said that the biggest spot (he had a few) that was just about black was only |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|06:32:19|12/15/2011|

Posted on Dec-15-11 at 06:32 AM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

Seborrheic keratoses which is common skin growths that grow during adult life. They are harmless and will never become malignant and they are inherited. So Thank you Jesus and for all the prayers. One worry lifted.
Our friend is still in hospital, they are trying to get him stabilized and possibly move him to Rochester, NY once he's stablized. Seems his bladder and kidney's are creating some problems along with the liver problem. He didn't recognize anyone but his wife yesterday and they aren't sure why he's lost the ability to recognize anyone. So the worry goes on.
Please keep the prayers coming. And I thank you all very much.

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Garnette member 19|2|So glad for your good news regarding your husband! :) Cont'd prayers for your friend.....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|07:28:57|12/15/2011|

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22|3|so glad to hear the good news on hubby|pattyo|pattyolc@aol.com|04:53:05|12/19/2011|

Posted on Dec-19-11 at 04:53 AM (Eastern) by 65.83.193.205

Sure hope your friend improves.. prayers..........

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21|2|Great news and Im sorry about your friend, will keep him and his wife in my thoughts and prayers|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|11:17:21|12/15/2011|
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~~ You are the BEST!! ~~ 23|1|We went to see our friends this week-end. He's lost so much weight. Really thin. He's not eating, no appetite. Not a good sign. When his sons got to |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|15:06:42|12/19/2011|

Posted on Dec-19-11 at 03:06 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

hospital, my hubby took them into the hallway so she wouldn't hear. Dr., doesn't seem to be telling her much. Seems like his liver is not working the way it should. Plus he has a plugged artery. Dr., told the sons that he could live as long as 4-6 year in very poor health and no strength or as little as 2 weeks. They are not sure. The hospital in Syracuse doesn't seem to do much of anything for him, I told hubby that it seems they know they can't do anything for him so they are just making him comfortable. Now the wife doesn't know this and I feel this is not up to us to tell her so we will keep quiet about all this to her. She seems to be in pretty good spirits. I think with her being such a saint and she sure is with all the stuff she put up with him that God is slowly letting her adjust to the idea so it won't be a complete shock to her when he goes. He did seem to perk up some when he saw us and looked a little better on Sunday. Our friend says he would like to go to the Bahamas in Feburary, so we told him that if you eat like your suppose to you will get strong and we will go with them both in April. Don't know how we can afford this after just coming back from our cruise. Can only afford one cruise a year not two. But he perked up with that knowing we all would go. So it gives him an incentive and maybe hope. I felt so sorry for him, we took him for a walk and after a very short distance he had to sit down and he started to shake as if he were freezing, I asked if he wanted me to get him a blanket he said no, as he wasn't cold, but this is what the liver does and makes him do that. He said he could feel the liver doing something, I'm not sure what and it makes him really shiver.
So that's the update on our dear friend. Please continue the prayers, I've prayed, begged and pleaded for God to help him get through this and get healthy. Really appreciate the prayers. Thank you everyone.


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Garnette member 24|2|I mentioned in my last posting that he was shivering and couldn't control it. And he said he could feel the liver doing something. Does anyone know |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|15:13:13|12/19/2011|

Posted on Dec-19-11 at 03:13 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

why and what would make him shiver so hard. And why would he feel the liver doing something. What does the liver do to do that?


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Garnette member 25|1|Joy, (Saint) Can you read the last 2 posts and lmk if you can give me an answer, being a nurse, just wondering. TY|flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|17:13:54|12/19/2011|

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Garnette member 26|2|Joy, I dont know what he is experiencing in regards to what he 'feels', but I have never heard of the liver or it's functions being specifically 'felt'....he may have some discomfort or pressure in that area if the liver is enlarged, etc...Also, in regards to his current treatment regimine, it is possible that the docs are observing his living will wishes with no aggressive treatments.....so while it may look like they are doing 'nothing', they may be doing just what he wishes. I am not sure why they would not discuss things with his wife, unless he asked them specifically not to tell her. |saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:51:47|12/19/2011|

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27|3|Joy, the only way I can explain it is. That he started shaking, the whole body as if he were cold, he said no, and then said it was the liver doing that|flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|19:28:44|12/19/2011|

Posted on Dec-19-11 at 07:28 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

that he could feel it inside doing something and then he gets the shivers. I googled anything and everything to find out why he would be shivering. But could find nothing. He has nothing at this stage of the game of not wanting anything done. But they don't seem to be doing anything and they are both baffled as to the wait for Dr., and any explaination.
Which they don't have at least that's what our friends are thinking. But the Dr., did go out and tell the sons of the length of time etc. and not her. She wanted to know what they said and the boys told her differently as well as my hubby did when she asked what the boys told him. Why the Dr., wouldn't tell her isn't clear to me. But she wants to do everything possible to keep him alive and his wishes are to stay alive and have them do anything and everything to do so.
So there is no problem with communication on that aspect.
I just talked with her a little while ago. And she said they want to keep in the hospital a few more days and then they want him to go to Rochester, NY to the hospital there and have a consultation with the Doctors there. This poor man is so thin and weak, I have no idea and neither does she how she's going to get him to Rochester. It's a little over an hour drive. And then to drive back home. None of us understand just what's going on. But in the end I do believe he is on short time. I wish to God I'm wrong. I've know him for 53 years and don't want to lose him. And hubby has known him for 70 years. So when I say a dear friend they most certainly are.
But I just wanted to get an idea of the shivering part. It lasted only about 1-1 1/2 minutes then it was gone and he was ok. But it happens several times. Baffling. I tried to tell as much as I know about the shivering that might give you some idea. But that's all the info I have.
Thank you for your help.
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Garnette member 28|4|I googled "liver disease shivering" and found one link to symptoms of an abcess on the liver...link inside.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|20:47:18|12/19/2011|

Posted on Dec-19-11 at 08:47 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.152.114

http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/l/liver_abscess/symptoms.htm

So, if the shivering is related to the liver issue, this might be an answer.....of course, the docs would have to diagnose, I just put the two key words together to search.

If the docs are unsure as to what the diagnosis is, they may not know how to proceed for treatment....sometimes the diagnostics can take some time, they start with one thing and by process of elimination based on results, they try different diagnostics until they can find an answer.

As to the information not being given to the wife, it sounds to me that he and the sons are keeping the info from her.....that is their own family dynamic and you may not be able to change it. Perhaps your DH could speak to his friend and persuade him to allow the docs to tell his wife the facts thus far.


Continued prayers for him, for his wife and sons....for you and your DH as their dear lifelong friends....
Joy

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29|5|Noone is not permitting the Dr., talking with her. I honestly don't understand why they don't. Hubby just talked with her and she says they are letting |flapper|joyphalen@yahoo.com|15:20:27|12/20/2011|

Posted on Dec-20-11 at 03:20 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.231.51

him go home, she will get some nurse's assistance daily. But she told hubby, noone even the Dr. tells her anything. I have never in my whole life heard of such a thing. I certainly would make sure I could find out what was going on. Maybe she doesn't persue it. Not sure. Both me and hubby are flabergasted as to what is going on. And we find he's going home tomorrow and she isn't sure why they are letting him go. I really think that they feel there is nothing that can be done and just sending him home. Hope I'm wrong, but everything seems to indicate as such. I never heard of such going on with Dr., and patient. I feel it's up to their Sons to say something, they told my hubby not to say anything to her of what they had discussed with him and to we have to respect their wishes and certainly don't want to upset them neither.
That's why we not say anything. Because we were asked not to.
Just have bide the time and see what happens. I thank you very much for the web-site I will go into it after I post this.
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