49 0|0|RS Help Network|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|12:19:04|11/17/2011|
Posted on Nov-17-11 at 12:19 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

I'm so encouraged to see how many caring people we have on RS and I have an idea about a Help Network I would like to create for us all.

At this time of the year there are so many who need help, especially children and I'm thrilled that we have so many here that care and want to make a difference. I am also thinking about the rest of the year, how these families and children need help at other times too. There is summertime without school lunches, back-to-school shopping for clothing, help with birthdays and all sorts of other needs. I know that getting help at other times of the year is difficult with their local agencies as most donations come in during the holidays and fall off during the year.

I'm inspired by modestneeds.org and how they help people with all sorts of expenses. I am also disappointed in modestneeds because they only seem to help when the donation would result in the person evenutally not being poor or not needing help again. This is ridiculous to me, should we help only if they will be somehow pulled out of poverty? Of course not. We should help simply because they need help, period.

I also believe it is best to keep the name of the person who is helped a private matter, to maintain their dignity and privacy. Should the recipient want to publicly thank the helper then that is good but I want to leave this option up to the recipient. I also think it might work better if I can match the helper and recipient to their local areas. I realize this might not be possible all the time but if one RS member is helping another in the same area, this would cut down dramatically on shipping costs and enable the helper to do even more. It would also be so nice to meet those who are helping you to personally thank them and you might gain a good friend or two as well. :)

So those are my ideas and I want to start creating a database of those who need help and those who can offer help. It doesn't have to be very much at all, sometimes an envie of coupons will make a huge difference. For helpers, please sign up if you can help a tiny bit each month. For most, the end of the month is the worst time and they can use help the most then so please keep this in mind when you are considering helping. When you sign up to help, please know I am asking that each family be helped for the next year, I know that sounds like a lot but it honestly doesn't have to be very expensive at all. Even the smallest things can make a huge impact.

For those that need help, please email me privately and I will be taking the information to begin this in January. Please include information about your family as far as needs, ages and also a coupon wishlist. A list of local stores would be helpful too, in case the helper would like to buy a gift certificate.

I will also start auctions in January for members who need help on an as-needed basis. Please help with the auctions when you can.

I pray we can all work together to help all year round and am very excited about this opportunity to help our RS family. If you have any suggestions or questions, just email me.

:) 1|1|My thoughts inside|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|13:10:27|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 01:10 PM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

I think you will be abused. I think there are people who don't take any initiate to better themselves. I think we do an angel auction when we truly see a need we can help. I think for you to be asking for help every month is a bit much. I know some of us are better off than others here. But those that are better off shouldn't have to nor should we ask them to help every month. I know you aren't asking but I think you will run out of people to help. I know Shelly didn't have as many angels this year as years past. I love the thought you have but I think perhaps there are better ways to do it.

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 27 to GO!)

"You're so open minded that your brain leaked out." - Steve Taylor 2|2|i agree with kristy|ppe1952|matwell3@rochester.rr.com|13:24:17|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 01:24 PM (Eastern) by 67.247.176.193

as a supplier to my church's food cupboard i know that there are many many people who come every month. they always seem to have a need. those food cupboards are supposed to be for emergencies only and if you are coming every month then it is chronic and not an emergency.. same thing will happen on the web site you want o create. once is an emergency but there are some who will always have " a non energency emergency"


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Posted on Nov-17-11 at 01:38 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

I understand what you are saying and they are valid concerns but I still think it is worth an effort to help. I don't mind that someone needs help every month and it wouldn't have to be an awful lot, even 5.00 is a lot when you are broke and need dinner for your children.

There are certainly chronically poor people that will always need help, I don't see a problem with this at all. Some will make it out of poverty and some won't but that doesn't change how I feel about helping when they do need help. Whatever happens down the road isn't a concern for me, they need help at that time and that is all I am focused on. If they need help later then that is ok too. 4|1|bumping :)|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|17:34:35|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 05:34 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

ty 5|2|this is a wonderful idea (m)|gwens29|gwen41539@bellsouth.net|18:23:30|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 06:23 PM (Eastern) by 65.5.248.197


you could do auctions thur the year to help the people who are shipping items to help with the cost of shipping..if their is anything i can do email me i know a lot of people who work hard but never can get ahead my in laws are on soc security and they should be able to make it but they struggle because of medical bills and medicine costs.. families everywhere are struggling sometimes just a email or a envie of cpns can make a difference we all rush around the holidays to fill the voids but in all reality if the are needy during the holidays they are needy thur the year too..I do think that you should help long standing members that have good feedback etc we all know all the regular traders so that would help cut down on the abuse the others are talking about and maybe u could set it up so that 2 people could do one family they can rotate it from month to month
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/27.html
30|3|Gwen, I like the rotating month idea!|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|15:22:03|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:22 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

That is a great idea, to rotate between two helpers for one family! So the family is covered each month and the helpers only need to send something every other month, such a great idea, thank you!! 6|2|Honestly, I have to agree with the others.....|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|18:26:05|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 06:26 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

I think the idea is nice, however, I truly don't see it being used as a place of last resort..... 7|3|its not for emergencies its for help thur the yr not just holidays she sais she would do emergencies too by using auctions|gwens29|gwen41539@bellsouth.net|18:35:25|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 06:35 PM (Eastern) by 65.5.248.197

http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/27.html
9|4|oh okay...I'm still not too sure ....it sounds like there's too much potential there to be taken advantage of....|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|18:46:31|11/17/2011|

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Posted on Nov-17-11 at 06:46 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

and while I can sympathize needing some financial assistance....it's not the kind of thing I would personally contribute to because of the potential for it to be abused and looked at as a "freebie"......for some who may want to use their finances for "wants" rather than their "needs".

That's just my take on it.


8|1|coumt me in |mpoole1|jpoole@cinergymetro.net|18:46:17|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 06:46 PM (Eastern) by 69.174.154.96

ill do what i can 34|2|Thank you!|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|15:30:03|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:30 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Will be contacting the helpers closer to January when this begins, thank you so much!! 10|1|In my opinion I think this is a bad idea. Sorry, I am all for helping people. I have helped many over the years. I find that there is a fine line between a hand up and a hand out. I think we at RS already come together to help each other all through the year through Angel Auctions and impromptu auctions/actions. |Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|19:00:02|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 07:00 PM (Eastern) by 24.247.214.64

To ask for more is just wrong imho. I think we are all better suited to direct people to agencies/programs in their area that can help. I also think that we are all better suited to help locally in our own areas. We can volunteer our time, our expertise, our actions and even our money/used products if we choose and we don't have to pay shipping....(and don't even get me started about shipping via USPS.)




Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa


11|2|I totally agree Lisa|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|19:04:59|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 07:04 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

this is exactly what I was thinking. 12|1|Thank you!|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|20:08:50|11/17/2011|

Posted on Nov-17-11 at 08:08 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Will be starting in January and thank you to those who have offered to help! :) 13|2|My opinion|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|20:19:01|11/17/2011|

Last edited on Nov-17-11 at 08:50 PM (Eastern) by 24.115.89.23

I think its a good idea, as long as people dont abuse it.. some of us dont have a choice income wise... and some of us fall on really hard times, and sometimes it comes down to food or drs and medication.. I know alot of people have it harder than me and have children, which I am now thankful I wasnt able to have children, especially with my a$$ of an x husband.. I know alot of people that rely on SS and it doesnt go very far.. I do believe though this should be for board members only, in good standing on the board with feedbck and who have been on the board 6 months or more.. JMHO and ty to those who do want to help, and those who have helped me, you are true angels :) you dont know how much it means to me that we are going to have a Thanksgiving this year.. and 2 months of my internet paid thanks to the auction.. you will never know what it means to me...

ETA: Oh and you never know the persons situation.. I hope people dont think that Im being greedy when I go for an emergency box at Salvation Army.. my foodstamps do not allow for somethings I would really like to have, instead of living off hot dogs and mac and cheese.. it was nice to get apple juice and the stuff to make spaghetti.. and PEANUT BUTTER, which is a luxury for me, since ants got into my jar i bought with my foodstamps (Yes ants.. little buggers eating my peanut butter.. grr) I know this will probably peeve some people off, but as I said just my Honest Opinion..

I remember sending box of food and toiletries to members that needed them.. spending $50 in shipping alone.. remember helping an entire family, not just the children for Christmas one year.. Helping with the Christmas Angels.. and I enjoyed doing it.. I am sad that I can no longer do that... it was the gift of giving that made me feel good...


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Posted on Nov-18-11 at 11:16 AM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

And most programs at least have qualifiers so the people can't abuse the system. Not that they don't anyway but less chance than with what you are thinking.

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 27 to GO!)

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Posted on Nov-18-11 at 11:32 AM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

They would already be part of our RS family and the only qualifier would be that they need help. I'm not worried about abuse and I would rather risk it than to not help anyone at all. I pray carefully about what to do and do as God leads me to do. We are to be fools for Christ and there is also this verse:

1Cor 6:7
Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

Local agencies vary from town to town and are fraught with redtape and paperwork which results in little to no help in some situations. I don't think it is loving or appropriate to make those in need fill out a bunch of papers and give everything but a blood sample just to get a little help. And this is the situation they run into when at local agencies. I don't want this to be like that, more of a friendly, caring effort where everyone in need is deemed worthy to help. Along the lines of a good friend, can I do anything for you this month? And it wouldn't have to be a lot at all, we all have extra coupons at the very least. Whatever level of help you think is appropriate then do what you feel is right. A little or a lot, just so we tend to those who need help on a regular basis.

I hope that explains in more detail what I am going to do and I do sincerely hope I can build a network of helpers here at RS. Times are getting harder for us all and though we can't change the world, we can help another Mom, another family have it a bit easier. 16|5|Good luck with it I just hope those who get help don't turn around and do some of the things I have seen some helped in the past do |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|11:39:57|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 11:39 AM (Eastern) by 74.134.84.209

>Posted on Nov-18-11 at 11:32 AM (Eastern)
>by 207.255.32.70They would already be part
>of our RS family and the
>only qualifier would be that they
>need help. I'm not worried
>about abuse and I would rather
>risk it than to not help
>anyone at all. I pray
>carefully about what to do and
>do as God leads me to
>do. We are to be
>fools for Christ and there is
>also this verse:
>1Cor 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly
>a fault among you, because ye
>go to law one with another.
>Why do ye not rather take
>wrong? why do ye not rather
>suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
>Local agencies vary from town to town
>and are fraught with redtape and
>paperwork which results in little to
>no help in some situations.
>I don't think it is loving
>or appropriate to make those in
>need fill out a bunch of
>papers and give everything but a
>blood sample just to get a
>little help. And this is
>the situation they run into when
>at local agencies. I don't
>want this to be like that,
>more of a friendly, caring effort
>where everyone in need is deemed
>worthy to help. Along the
>lines of a good friend, can
>I do anything for you this
>month? And it wouldn't have
>to be a lot at all,
>we all have extra coupons at
>the very least. Whatever level
>of help you think is appropriate
>then do what you feel is
>right. A little or a
>lot, just so we tend to
>those who need help on a
>regular basis.
>I hope that explains in more detail
>what I am going to do
>and I do sincerely hope I
>can build a network of helpers
>here at RS. Times are
>getting harder for us all and
>though we can't change the world,
>we can help another Mom, another
>family have it a bit easier.
>


17|1|In some instances, some people cant get the help they need|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|13:38:08|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 01:38 PM (Eastern) by 24.115.89.23

I dont qualify for alot of things because I have no children, so therefore, it is not considered an emergency, noone cares that I am living on $176 a month, and that all my bills are behind and I have no way to pay them.. In PA it is hard to get anything to help you out when u need it.. Lisa did help me out with some links, but again no children, they dont want to help... It is alot of red tape and alot of BS.. I even applied for wrap thru my electric company.. it takes 2 months for them to get the application in the computer (which they did NOT tell me when I applied).. WTH.. In 2 months winter will be in full swing and they wont be able to do anything anyway.. I give up.. my mobile home needs weatherization and windows badly.. and now at this point I probably wont get them until next summer or fall sometime.. sorry for my gabbering on, i will go crawl back into my warm bed now.. since thats my way to keep warm as I havent heard from LIHEAP yet. Take care and Love ya all! ~Hugs~ Kandy

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Posted on Nov-18-11 at 01:46 PM (Eastern) by 67.235.71.185

with your power in the wait time, with a cut off notice the Salvation Army will usually help with one power bill a year. If there is not a Salvation Army near you there may be other non-profit agencies able to help like Good Samaritan. Lisa would probably know. ((Hugs)) to you 19|3|I'm confused Kandy. In your other post you said you get $768 a month. |Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|14:06:46|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:06 PM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 27 to GO!)

"You're so open minded that your brain leaked out." - Steve Taylor 32|2|Kandy, that reminded me of one program years ago|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|15:27:48|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:27 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

It was during a heat wave and the state did an emergency program to give the elderly and disabled air conditioners and fans. This was started during the hottest part of summer and by the time all the funds were actually in place and available, it was nearly October. I think we should help first and ask questions later. God only knows how many people got ill from not having proper air conditioning, especially dangerous for those with heart conditions and the elderly. They should treat emergency situations as just that, an emergency.

I hope things look up for you soon, it sure is cold out right now, I'm in PA too. Take care and hugs~ :) 20|1|There are reasons why you have to jump through hoops, follow up repeatedly and feel like you are giving away your first born....because of the abuse levels . I know first hand how hard this is. My Uncle Joe was diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer a little over two months ago. I found all the appropiate programs for him. We filled out all the paperwork. It was all approved almost immediately but because of processing rules and wait periods, guess what? My Uncle died yesterday, almost two months to the date he was to start receiving his first check.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|14:22:39|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:22 PM (Eastern) by 24.247.214.64

Am I pissed about this, uh yeah. But at the same time, I understand it.
Sometimes in the links I provide are generic, they work for most people. I have often stated that if you can't find help from the links I give, email me again and I will find more.
By finding help, I don't mean calling one or two just once. The process is you have to be a pain to get the wheels moving. There are so many resources out there. I know some have been tapped dry, but for every dry one there is two or three others that can help or provide direction on where to turn for help.
Cindy, this is by no means directed against what you are doing. I think it is awesome that you want to help....I just feel this is going to be abused. No disrespect towards anyone who needs help as there but by the grace of god go I.
I still think giving local, whether it be your time, your money, your expertise, etc is the best way to go.

Over the weekend I will post a post containing on where to start if you are in need of help.




Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa


21|2|abuse isn't a concern for me|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|14:30:55|11/18/2011|

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Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:30 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Even if 9 out of 10 people would abuse any help program, it still is worth it for the one person who won't abuse it. I hope that makes sense. I would rather a few take me for a ride than to refuse to help even one person. It isn't on me if they abuse it, its on them. As far as I can possibly know, I tried to help someone and that is all I need to know. I honestly don't worry one bit about if that person really needs it, if they are going to use the money, etc in the manner they promised to use it. It doesn't matter to me. To delay things with paperwork and having to check on every tiny thing does result in some not being helped, as you stated you know personally. This shouldn't be, it doesn't have to be...like I said, the only qualifier is that they need help, thats all I need to know.

I am trying to do this locally, if you read my first post, I would love for the helper and the person who is helped to be in the same area. This would save a lot of shipping costs and wouldn't it be nice to meet them in person? It could possibly expand in their local area as well, they might be inspired to do even more locally, search out their freecycle groups and actively seek for people to help. I am all for making it local, if possible.

I'm sorry to hear about your uncle, that is just so horrible. 23|3|With all due respect, those are your feelings, but others who would be participating may not feel the same way....it doesnt feel good to be taken advantage of, especially if it's someone here with whom you have had a relationship of some kind with in years past.....I am just putting the other side of the coin out there as perspective as to why some think this could become a problem.....I think your intentions are very generous and kind, and I love to help people here when I can, but it's nice that I can do it at my own discretion and in my own time frame based on what I have to give at that time. :)|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|14:36:00|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:36 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.152.114

" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."


24|4|completely understandable|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|14:51:14|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:51 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Whatever way you feel comfortable with is definitely what you should do, this is just how I feel comfortable doing this sort of thing.

I know this is a different approach and it is meant to be. I do hear of so many who need help and the increasingly difficult processes they must go through and I just don't see any good reason for it. If the only reason is potential abuse then it isn't a deal-breaker for me. I realize it would cause others to not participate and of course, that is your own choice as I am choosing to do it this way for me. I am simply seeking others who feel the same to develop a network of sorts.

I certainly don't want to put others on the hook and potentially have them being taken advantage of, not at all. I suppose what I am saying is that there is always a risk of this and that risk isn't enough to deter me but I do understand if this isn't the way some want to help. Whatever way is best for you, I'm all for it. This way works best for me and hopefully those who are being helped, I'm trying to eliminate some of the obstacles they have to deal with when seeking help.

So again, just seeking like-minded helpers who want to cut the redtape and simply help. :) 22|2|Lisa, I am so sorry to hear about your uncle's passing.....you and your family will be in my prayers.....and I agree with your viewpoint on this...and I know without a doubt you are a very giving, generous, thoughtful person with all the time and effort you put into helping with local resources for those who need them.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|14:31:29|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:31 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.152.114

" You'll get what's coming to you ... Unless it was mailed."


25|3|Maybe I should explain a little better|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|14:56:04|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:56 PM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

I've hosted angel auctions for years now. When someone emails and we feel it's truly a need I have no problem jumping up and pitching in. But I know I've held auctions where days later the person was bidding on auctions not food or hba related. Or when people are talking about buying others gifts when we just gave them a lump sump of money. Or when they suddenly disappear never to return again. I know in my heart I did it for the right reasons and don't worry about that part. But I do think there is abuse yes even on RS. And Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me.

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 27 to GO!)

"You're so open minded that your brain leaked out." - Steve Taylor 26|4|Lisa that bites. So sorry to hear that. Big hugs|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|14:56:39|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 02:56 PM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 27 to GO!)

"You're so open minded that your brain leaked out." - Steve Taylor 29|4|I don't quite understand|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|15:14:45|11/18/2011|

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Last edited on Nov-18-11 at 03:15 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:14 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

What is wrong if they are just a few days later bidding on other auctions, not food or hba? We don't own anyone and can't tell them how to spend their money, even if we help them. There are plenty of other things that are needed other than food or hba. Just think of the things we all buy for ourselves, the very same they need too.

If they disappear then that is fine too, hopefully they will be ok and we should welcome them back if ever need be.

They can buy gifts for others in their lives, just as we do. I don't understand why this is a problem. Again, we shouldn't seek to control anyone and they shouldn't have to walk on eggshells because we helped them. It doesn't take away from what you did at all, whether you think the funds are being used properly or not. You did what you should and now its up to them to do what they should do but it should never be dictated to them how to spend the money or how to use the items. It was a gift, after all.

edited because I just can't spell today lol


27|3|Thanks ladies :) His passing was for the best. Cancer is a cruel, cruel beast. I just wanted to share how one has to deal with agencies that can be of help.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|15:02:23|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:02 PM (Eastern) by 24.247.214.64



Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa


28|4|Lisa I am so sorry to hear of your family's loss Prayers going out to all of you|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|15:12:36|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:12 PM (Eastern) by 74.134.84.209

>Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:02 PM (Eastern)
>by 24.247.214.64 Life is like
>a cup of tea, It's all
>in how you make it. Lisa
>
>


31|5|You can count me in, I will try my best to help!|HONEY11|HONEY1@AMERITECH.NET|15:24:15|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:24 PM (Eastern) by 108.192.106.129

o
o
@..@
(----)
( )--( )
o0..0o Linda

33|6|Thank you!|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|15:28:42|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:28 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

Will be contacting all the helpers closer to January as this begins, thank you so much!! :) 35|7|You welcome sounds good! :)|HONEY11|HONEY1@AMERITECH.NET|15:33:31|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 03:33 PM (Eastern) by 108.192.106.129

o
o
@..@
(----)
( )--( )
o0..0o Linda

41|2|Gosh Lisa, I'm sure sorry about your uncle. :( You & your family have my prayers & deepest sympathies.|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|21:30:50|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 09:30 PM (Eastern) by 216.226.95.239

Smile... it makes people wonder what you're up to!

Please identify yourself in 1st email w/name/username. Due to recent problem trades, if I haven't traded w/you before, I will probably require you send your end 1st or I'll need LEGIT trade references/feedback. I will be happy to provide the same. IF you plan to hold your end til you've received mine, I will need to know that IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE trade is finalized.


If you're happy w/our trade, please leave feedback for me at:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/1133.html
I'll gladly do the same for you upon request.:)

36|1|I understand everyones concern, and Kristy see inside|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|16:11:21|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 04:11 PM (Eastern) by 24.115.89.23

I am supposed to get $768 a month however he is paying approx. $176 a month just to keep his rear end out of jail, as long as he is paying something they can put him in jail... he said he sent a payment of $310 in Tuesday, but who knows if he is being truthful or not.. last month I got $704, but that still doesnt catch me up for the $3000 he owes me.. and since he isnt consistant, everything goes by the amount he is supposed to pay, not the amount I am getting because they never know when he is going to pay.. hope that clears things up.. I have gotten a total of $176 a month for Aug and Sept. $704 for Oct and nothing so far this month.. the only thing that is paid up is my lot rent because the landlord can and will kick me out if I dont pay, she doesnt care about my situation... and that alone is $300 a month.. the other $400 went to get bills a little caught up.. but I owe my mom over $700 for the months he didnt pay me.. my garbage bill is behind, my electric is 2 months behind and my internet is 2 months behind.. plus i have had to pay the copays for my meds and my drs visits.. I cant ask my mom for anymore because she doesnt have it, she is on SS.. sorry Im rambling again lol..

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-{-<@ Have we traded? @>-}- ~Please~ leave feedback at this link:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/78.html
TY!

~Please include RS username in emails. If you do not have a username, I WILL NOT trade
with you. Tired of lurkers taking advantage of people, if you really want to trade, you will
sign up at RS with a username!~

~If we have not traded before and you have no feedback or 5 or less feedback you will
need to send your end first. Sorry but this is my new rule. TY~

~I am now giving 36 hours from the time I email someone about a trade. I am losing too
many trades waiting 3 or 4 days, and then they decide no, or dont let me know at all.
Sorry, but I can't wait longer than 36 hours, I believe that is more than fair~

~ Shipping from Zipcode 18201 ~

~~Thank you everyone for all the wonderful trades~~
~~ You are the BEST!! ~~ 37|1|Kandy with that amont coming in have you tried medicaid?|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|16:37:41|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 04:37 PM (Eastern) by 74.134.84.209

T 38|2|I have medicaid, but I still have co pays on both my prescriptions and my drs.. (Yes I have $1 copay for meds, but 14 of them a month is $14 and between drs $2 and specialists $4 or $6 it adds up when you have nothing) I know I should be happy for having medicaid and I am, one lady told me everytime she has a problem she goes to the er because there is no copay |kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|16:51:05|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 04:51 PM (Eastern) by 24.115.89.23

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-{-<@ Have we traded? @>-}- ~Please~ leave feedback at this link:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/78.html
TY!

~Please include RS username in emails. If you do not have a username, I WILL NOT trade
with you. Tired of lurkers taking advantage of people, if you really want to trade, you will
sign up at RS with a username!~

~If we have not traded before and you have no feedback or 5 or less feedback you will
need to send your end first. Sorry but this is my new rule. TY~

~I am now giving 36 hours from the time I email someone about a trade. I am losing too
many trades waiting 3 or 4 days, and then they decide no, or dont let me know at all.
Sorry, but I can't wait longer than 36 hours, I believe that is more than fair~

~ Shipping from Zipcode 18201 ~

~~Thank you everyone for all the wonderful trades~~
~~ You are the BEST!! ~~ 39|1|Lisa I am so sorry to hear about you uncle too , yes....|melpaul|Melpaul199@aol.com|19:18:35|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 07:18 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

cancer is a mean thing I dont wish that on any one Also I just want to say Lisa your helping everyone with links for resources is just wonderful! It takes a special person to help others
in any way and we have on the rs board all special people in this family here in my eyes here 40|2|Lisa Im sooo sorry about youruncle, you have been a huge help to me and alot of others on the board, I hope you know how much we appreciate you, and yes cancer is a horrible disease, lost my grandfather to spinal cancer 1 year ago July 4th.. It is horrible to watch...|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|20:18:50|11/18/2011|

Posted on Nov-18-11 at 08:18 PM (Eastern) by 24.115.89.23

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-{-<@ Have we traded? @>-}- ~Please~ leave feedback at this link:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/78.html
TY!

~Please include RS username in emails. If you do not have a username, I WILL NOT trade
with you. Tired of lurkers taking advantage of people, if you really want to trade, you will
sign up at RS with a username!~

~If we have not traded before and you have no feedback or 5 or less feedback you will
need to send your end first. Sorry but this is my new rule. TY~

~I am now giving 36 hours from the time I email someone about a trade. I am losing too
many trades waiting 3 or 4 days, and then they decide no, or dont let me know at all.
Sorry, but I can't wait longer than 36 hours, I believe that is more than fair~

~ Shipping from Zipcode 18201 ~

~~Thank you everyone for all the wonderful trades~~
~~ You are the BEST!! ~~ 43|1|Kristy - I hear you and agree...|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|14:07:05|11/19/2011|

Posted on Nov-19-11 at 02:07 PM (Eastern) by 173.48.121.223

I have seen you hold dozens of angel auctions. I have bid on and won several of them and it was always a feel good situation. But I have seen others where, you're right -- two days later, three days later - they are bidding on jewelry or something else that we were led to believe they couldn't have because they didn't have money for food or rent.

Many years ago (and I'm sorry, I can't remember who this was) but we did an angel auction for someone who couldn't give her child a birthday gift - some people participated in the auction, others sent her direct paypal. We all assumed (or at least I did) that her child had a great birthday, etc. etc.

Then a couple weeks later there were posts about her new car and how she and hubby had "saved" up a wad of cash to take a big vacation to some exotic place. I was so angry and felt so used. So, even though the OP states that the abuse wouldn't bother her (hope I'm not misunderstanding) those who help may.

The best feeling angel auctions have been for long-time RS people who we knew had given in the past... or even better... pay it forward.

I, myself, was the recipient of an angel auction several years ago and even now when I think about it, I get choked up and teary eyes. I will never forget it. And my way of not forgetting that it to pay it forward when I can - not only publicly, but privately. To the best of my knowledge, each time I have, it went toward a real need and I felt good about it.

I do worry, however, about this idea. While it sounds great - it also sounds like an invitation for abuse and I hate to see my friends taken advantage of. 44|2|my thoughts...>|gwens29|gwen41539@bellsouth.net|14:14:06|11/19/2011|

Posted on Nov-19-11 at 02:14 PM (Eastern) by 65.5.248.197

we wont be helping strangers we will be helping each other long time members ppl we know right? so we should know who we are helping right?

http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/27.html
45|3|Sure we may know them but there are some who "we know" who I wouldn't help again because of the abuse I have seen them show here |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|16:38:03|11/19/2011|

Posted on Nov-19-11 at 04:38 PM (Eastern) by 74.134.84.209

some just don't show any effort in helping themselves they just show up here some times only when they have " problems" When my DH lost his job a few years ago I was on the recieving end of an Angel auction which I was very thankfull for I know how things can be at times but I also know ya have to pull yourself up and get going and move forward too 46|1|any more? still building a network until January :)|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|01:01:17|11/20/2011|

Posted on Nov-20-11 at 01:01 AM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

:) 47|1|I'm smack dab in the middle about this............|suzhappy|suzhappy@yahoo.com|19:52:41|11/20/2011|

Posted on Nov-20-11 at 07:52 PM (Eastern) by 24.145.48.26

I clearly see both sides of the coin ~ perhaps because I've been on both sides of the coin. On one hand I think it's a wonderful idea because if we can't help each other, then who can we help? I mean the love starts at home right? It's shocking to find yourself in a situation where your husband is unemployed and you honestly don't know how you're going to pay the bills, etc. But then what an absolute feeling of being cared about happens....it's unexplainable. Who wouldn't want to give that feeling of being cared about to someone if they could?? On the other hand though, who wants to get used, abused or hurt? Nobody does but sometimes you have to take that leap of faith and believe in the basic goodness of people. Sometimes a person may seem ungrateful or uncaring due to reasons unknown....shyness even. Nobody can really fathom what goes on behind closed doors as the saying goes. You might be shocked. These are just my thoughts on the matter and probably don't make a bit of sense. All I know is that the RS family is the best family in the world and I mean that literally. Thank you again for everything but mostly for giving me hope.

Please leave me feedback if we have had a favorable trade and I will do the same for you!

http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/28.html 48|2|plenty of help going on already without abuse|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|20:43:19|11/20/2011|

Posted on Nov-20-11 at 08:43 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.32.70

I see plenty of help going on already at RS without abuse and with genuine thankfulness, I honestly don't know why the abuse issue was even raised but I'm not going to address it anymore. Of course, anyone on the bad trader list or otherwise a scammer will be excluded and I will diligently pray for discernment, other than that, not much else you can do.
49|3|LOL. Abuse is HUGE on this board. If you truly help others you see it constantly|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|00:35:08|11/21/2011|

Posted on Nov-21-11 at 00:35 AM (Eastern) by 108.12.177.152

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