4 0|0|This explosion happened in mom & dad`s neighborhood.... Has videos|driller|harj@frontier.com|15:21:10|02/12/2011|
Posted on Feb-12-11 at 03:21 PM (Eastern) by 96.230.235.92


http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/house-explosion-kills-a-father

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/howell-explosion-family-needs-money-and-clothes-20101101-wpms

Yes, they felt the explosion. Just never know when it is your time. :(

~Judy in MI~ This is old news, and the road was closed due to too many people trying to see it. I did see
and looked worse than a torando. Just little bits & peices everywhere. Was a propane leak in the basement
and propane settles to the ground, so basement filled up with the gas, before the explosion. 1|1|Not too hip on propane or gas! DO you know how we would find if there are lines under our houses, close streets. towns and how old they are?|wegogo|mike15461@gmail.com|20:28:46|02/12/2011|

Posted on Feb-12-11 at 08:28 PM (Eastern) by 71.162.16.164

I figured you would have to know since you do wells... I just remembered a second propane leak I had from a stove. The other in a camper. Been lucky and would like to keep it that way. 2|2|Check with your local city or township. |driller|harj@frontier.com|21:28:01|02/12/2011|

Posted on Feb-12-11 at 09:28 PM (Eastern) by 96.230.235.92

They have records on all lines, water & sewer as well. Your local utility company also should have
all that info as well on their records. Mostly all gas lines need to be replaced. They keep putting
it off here, due to the poor economy. :( But, on the propane, that is a different story, as they
only come out and set the tank. You are responsible here in MI, to run your own line from the tank into
the house. Same with natural gas. You have to run your own line from their meter into the house., and
they will not hang the meter until you have the line installed. Best thing to do, is once a year, check
all your gas appliances, and make sure you have a carbon monoxide detector. I think they also make a meter
to read gas leaks as well? Pretty sure , as the fire dept has them.

Propane is worse because it lays low to the ground, while on the other hand natural gas floats up in the air.
Neither are that great, as far as leaks though.

~Judy in MI~ Good luck on finding out. Only other thing you can do, is find out who actually ran the lines?
Which sometimes is nearly impossible. Either one, you should be able to smell if you have a leak, as they have
to put the smell in all gases now, just for that reason. Main thing is to evacuate, if you do smell any gas.

The city and/or township will only know about the lines for natural gas. Not propane. You have to remember that
propane is just coming from an individual tank, not like natural gas, that actually comes from who knows how many
miles away.

3|3|also >>>>>>>>|driller|harj@frontier.com|21:39:53|02/12/2011|

Posted on Feb-12-11 at 09:39 PM (Eastern) by 96.230.235.92

If you have natural gas, they the city & or township are only responsible for their gas line running up into the meter.
Any lines coming out of the meter going into your house , you are responsible for. Most city or township gas lines going
into the meter from the street are anywhere from 2 feet deep to 5 feet deep.

As far as the propane, you are responsible for that. The propane company only sets the tank. The propane lines
are usually only one foot to about 3 feet deep. Just depends on the person who puts them in.

Hope this helps. You can always call your local fire dept, as I know for a fact, they do have the meters to check
for gas leaks. Not sure if you would get charged for them coming out though? That would probably depend on the
situation.

~Judy in MI~ 4|4|That's handy to know. Everyone should read your posts. I knew you would know!. |wegogo|mike15461@gmail.com|14:23:05|02/13/2011|

Posted on Feb-13-11 at 02:23 PM (Eastern) by 71.162.16.164

I am definately going to see how the lines are near our house.