Last edited on Nov-19-09 at 08:15 AM (Eastern) by 204.8.46.34
Posted on Nov-19-09 at 08:13 AM (Eastern) by 204.8.46.34
After reading this article, it all makes sense. Ever since I started having mammograms after 35 and started reading more about breast cancer, from several sources saying every time you get a mammogram, you're increasing your chances of getting breast cancer! I would tell my gyno about this and she would always poo-poo me about it. I haven't had one in 2 years and she gets mad that I don't get it done! I've been going to this group since I had my children in 80', and no longer a patient there. I do know the main reasons people get cancer is because of bad diet, environmental factors and especially if you have high acidity in your body, meaning if your body has a ph level of less than 5.0, you're increasing your chances of getting cancer, diseases, etc. The ph level should be between 6.5-7.5 - the higher the alkalinity in your body, also means more oxygen in your body, and cancer cells cannot survive in this high alkaline environment! HTH, Sharon:)
http://www.naturalnews.com/027537_mammograms_cancer_industry.html
Here's the rest of the article to this story if you don't want to sign up:
http://www.naturalnews.com/z027537_mammograms_cancer_industry.html
Mike Adams also mentioned Suzanne Somers in this article on her latest book - Knockout: Interviews with Doctors Who Are Curing Cancer--And How to Prevent Getting It in the First Place (Hardcover) that you can look up at Amazon.com - I just placed an order on this book.
1|1|Interesting ! Thanks for posting|spilleliz|spilleliz@gmail.com|11:17:54|11/19/2009|
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2|1|I can say only.....|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|14:46:41|11/19/2009|
I wish my Mother came from the era when mammogram screenings were common. By the time her beast cancer was discovered it had already spread to her lymph glands. She fought an 18 year battle that no one should have to go thru'. More women and MEN are survivng simply because of this screening. Any cancer caught at an early stage is easier to treat and more the more likley you are to live. Check out what going on in Utah!
As for worrying about your absorbed radiation you are looking at millirads. I will agree being exposed to large amounts to radiation is bad for your health. This is not the case. Nor should it be compaired to the old shoe store fluoro units. I'll have my yearly mammograms and just not expose my breasts to the radiation that's emitted from the TV.
Thanks for the link. It was a real shocker! 3|1|I don't agree with this article at all.....|KellyJef|burke3536@yahoo.com|15:22:25|11/19/2009|
the "for-profit cancer industry"???? Are you kidding me?
Exactly what kind of monsters would these people be who would DELIBERATELY want to have women get cancer "for profit"??
Maybe they would be able to "warn" their wives and immediate families not to get mammograms, but what about their extended families, friends, neighbors, co-workers? Do you really believe they would put them all at risk just for money?
Sorry, there is no way I believe any of this. Mammograms have done much more good than harm. Period. 4|1|As a medical professional, a female of 41 years old who recently had a breast cancer scare (it turned out to be nothing, all is fine)....I would not, and could not, recommend women in the proper age range of 40+ yrs old, NOT get a mammogram, at least every other year. The amount of radiation is probably no more than the radiation in dental xrays, lol...and we have those done yearly with no qualms at all....just a reminder though, a mammogram can only detect so much and are only once a year on average, self breast exams are also helpful in becoming familiar with your own tissues and noticing changes sooner. There are more advanced diagnostic imaging tests available, but not all insurance companies will pay for those...so for me, that is where the push should be, get insurance companies to pay for the better diagnostic!|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:39:10|11/19/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
5|2|Sharon...I have to disagree with you....100% |BusterBrown|srfreezerqueen@hotmail.com|18:56:09|11/19/2009|
Posted on Nov-19-09 at 06:56 PM (Eastern) by 68.80.212.218
You are most welcome to your opinions...but as a survivor....and one who does not fit all your reasons on why it occurs...I would, and always will.....RECOMMEND them...to anyone...i have several friends who are in optimal shape that have suffered as well...I really have to say, I am honestly offended by what i read of what you wrote....please reconsider your thoughts...Jodie
Edited to add.....that i am honestly hurt by your insinuation that what i chose to do in life caused my cancer...as i said before you are entitled to your opinions...but please think of the hurt they may cause...
7|3|Jodie, what did I say that hurt you?...|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|20:17:03|11/19/2009|
I know you had breast cancer and I'm sorry you had to go through this. I wasn't even thinking of you when I posted this info. If anyone needs to get a mammogram, I just think many doctors, including mine keep pushing us to get it done on yearly basis which I feel is too much radiation as well as too many false positives. One time I had it done twice because the first reading was blurry! If you can afford to pay extra, would definitely get "Thermography" unless it's covered on your health plan. Yes, each of us have different opinions and thought it was good info on this subject regarding breast cancer on it's pros and cons. From now on, will keep info to myself. Sorry if I've offended some of you. 11|4|Sharon,|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|21:28:26|11/19/2009|
Let me try to help you understand a few things. The reason your mammogram was repeated was because you moved while the film/s were being taken. You can only blame your self for having more images taken. It had nothing to do with the doctors reading.
Where are you drawing your knowledge about Thermography? This is just another tool as are ultrasound and MRI’s. Not all breast cancer cells show on this type of scan. The same goes for a mammogram. No one test is 100% fool proof. Thermography also uses energy waves and the body absorbs that energy. Have you thought of those ill effects?
For the most part I welcome others opinions. This topic I cannot sit quietly for. I’m not offended rather than upset you could see truth in what you posted. I worked more than 25 years treating people, from all ages and walks of life, with cancer. The one thing I’m sure of….everyone working is this field would gladly leave their job in exchange for a cure.
6|1|Heaven knows I'll probably get into trouble...but feel the need to give my 2 cents|Abbicca|Abbicca@insightbb.com|20:03:45|11/19/2009|
First...everyone is entitled to their own opinion..... that being said:
Do I think medical tests, etc are way overpriced? Yes..... do I think we could use some medical reform and SOMETHING to keep the costs from skyrocketing...yes. Is part of the reason for the inflated prices due to the medical industry NOT being paid on many bills as people file bankruptcy on them--sure. Do I have an answer for how to fix the whole mess? Heck no...sure wish I did.
BUT.... IMHO that article was WAAAYYY off base. I do NOT think the cancer industry is doing ANYTHING to purposely hurt ANYONE. If anything....because the tools HAVE gotten so much more advanced, they are able to catch many tumors WAY earlier than ever before and able to keep it from becoming life threatening....because of early detection. And the idea that the radiation from a mammogram is going to CAUSE cancer-----sure if you are having 20 of them DAILY...I could buy it. I cannot imagine that the teeny tiny amount of radiation from a mammogram...ONCE a year... is going to cause anything!! Getting my teeth ex-rayed once or twice a year is probably more harmful...and we all do THAT without thought. Using my microwave oven is probably MORE harmful...and I don't plan to stop that either.
As for environmental issues being a cause of cancer----I DO have to agree that it IS an issue. Especially in the older days... industrial plants did NOT have the regulation they do now....and populations living under large amounts of power lines DO or DID have higher frequency of SOME type of cancer (not sure if that one still holds true as I HOPE companies have become more responsible)....BUT you don't always get to CHOOSE your environment. We may all want to live in million dollar mansions...but last I checked, we have to work in cities for a living.... and that means living in the cities or suburbs. And often WHERE we live is also affected by the cost of transportation.... we might "earn" enough to live in a nicer house in the 'burbs....but not if we factor in the higher cost of going to and from work.
And I've never heard of what we eat being a cause of breast cancer....of course, I also don't apply to the proverb of "I am what I eat"---cuz them I'm just cheap, fast, and fattening....heehee (Don't mean to offend... just trying to add humor--cuz my brain works that way) To imply that we CHOOSE to have breast cancer is absurd.
Do I understand that there are more and more "false positives" readings...yes. And often among women under the age of 50--and I'd lean towards it being due to the levels of estrogen causing changes in our breasts still at those ages (let's be honest...estrogen drops off after 50 along with other hormones in menopause.) And is the cancer industry aggressive when they find a tiny spot of cancer---yes. But to NOT treat it ---as that article says is often "BETTER"--- sounds like pure suicide to me.
Me? I just want the ability to CHOOSE what I want to do. And with how many women's lives have been saved from early detection...I cannot even begin to THINK that ANYONE is performing mammograms in the hopes of CAUSING illness...and the wee radiation it causes I deem worth it as a preventive measure.
I also agree with Joy...(I think it was Joy)...if mammograms cause so many false positives and therefore cause so many unneeded procedures....then allow people to have the better tests at a cheaper rate.
8|1|Not to get off topic but......|Abbicca|Abbicca@insightbb.com|20:32:30|11/19/2009|
What tweaks my nose more is the thought that the board gets to "advise" people on what they deem best....that's fine. Right now they hold NO POWER to allow nor deny anyone anything...it is a mere recommendation. Just like it was a recommendation from this same kind of board that has been telling us for years that we SHOULD get them done annually after age 40. Heaven knows in another 10-20 years...we'll be back to annually at age 40. I just don't like anyone being able to tell someone that they cannot have what is basically a fairly cheap preventative test.
I'm just scared that IF the government gets to run health care...that board WILL get to choose if they "cover" mammograms or not....and therefore has the right to DENY people under age 40 from being covered to get one. And that will mean all the more people with more advanced cancer---or dying from it. Too many people---- who logically are NOT at risk... die of cancer in their 20's for us not to take advantage of non-invasive tests that are out there.
And is this new "recommendation" for fewer mammograms caused by honest regard for human life? Or is it caused by that board thinking that the GOVERNMENT might soon be paying that bill---and THEREFORE trying to trim THEIR possible costs? I DO think that the board's advisory was caused by money..... and their desire to "save" money. Of course, denying ANYONE actual treatment would save TRILLIONS...and guess who might get final say in who/what gets treated?? Somedays the devil you do know is much less scary than the devil you don't..... and I'll take my chances getting flu shots and mammograms as precautions... rather than run into stage 3 cancer or pneumonia from flu. 9|2|Ding, ding, ding....I think we have a winner! "And is this new "recommendation" for fewer mammograms caused by honest regard for human life? Or is it caused by that board thinking that the GOVERNMENT might soon be paying that bill---and THEREFORE trying to trim THEIR possible costs? I DO think that the board's advisory was caused by money..... and their desire to "save" money."|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|20:49:35|11/19/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
10|1|As a Health care provider for Woman's Health I feel we have to take control over our own health care|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|21:03:34|11/19/2009|
that includes proper screenings when necessary
there is always some crazy article on how screenings "cause" cancer, etc.. but I feel you have to take these with a grain of salt
what I find interesting is the article that cell phones cause brain tumors, are you going to stop using your cell phone (the word YOU is generalized and not geared to anyone in particular)
Microwaves give off waves, do we still use them
red dye causes cancer but we continue to eat many foods with red dye in them
my point is many everyday items we use and consume are said to cause cancer, yet, we continue to use these items. a very valuable screening tool is not different. the radiation from these screening is so low .
Should you choose to not see a physician who is trying to keep you healthy, especially since OBs see so many patients with many forms of cancer that could have detected early, I pick the Doc who is looking out for me!!!
end point: Tom Cruise saying post partum depression is not real and "in your head" . We all know differently!! wonder what Tom has to say to the poor child that was injured or no longer living because of depression.
Be careful of what you read and that the source is credible. 12|1|"I do know the main reasons people get cancer is because of bad diet " How DO you know that? Is that what the reason is for all the children in the world who have cancer?|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|21:28:49|11/19/2009|
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