First off I am not posting the traders name if they post here thats on them but wanted op on this
I traded for some forms her email to me said that my addy must be included with payment I sent pp and an email with my addy in it I also thought my addy would be with the pp I sent I personally don't always mail trades to the addys in the pp unless thetrader tells me that is their addy so anyway she sent my pp back with no email explaining I have been waiting on the trade and emailed her and ask what was wrong I went to pp to make sure I sent my end and that was when I saw her return of my money I'm a bit miffed I know what her email said but I thought my addy was in the pp payment but I did put it in my email What is your op? thanks
1|1|I think you did the right thing|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|17:19:57|10/14/2009|
Posted on Oct-14-09 at 05:19 PM (Eastern) by 69.253.199.199
usually the address shows up in with the paypal. I dont use paypal alot but noticed that the address is not always showing up lately. I thought it was just me. I dont always use the address listed in PP either as many times, the person wants the items shipped to another address
If this was my trade (and it was not) and I really wanted the address, I would have emailed and said, may I please have your address & thanks for the pp payment. Not sure what the issue is because it only takes a moment to email someone. Also, I tend to know who I am trading with. PP is guarenteed payment so all she needed was your address. you said you did email her the address so still not sure what is going on unless she missed your address in the email. I have done this (and others)...LOL..
Did you email and ask her what the issue was ? I would be interested in knowing why she gave the PP back instead of emailing you. Maybe she is new or ???
2|1|If your NAZ was in the email, I would think that was just fine & see nothing wrong w/that. |maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|17:20:52|10/14/2009|
I think PP stopped automatically putting our NAZ's in the PP payments awhile ago, for security reasons which I completely understand & am grateful for, so I see nothing wrong w/taking care of that ourselves in our own private emails.
We live in the Land of the Free only because of the Brave!
Please identify yourself in 1st email w/name/username. Due to recent problem trades, if I haven't traded w/you before, I will probably require you send your end 1st or I'll need LEGIT trade references/feedback. I will be happy to provide the same. IF you plan to hold your end til you've received mine, I will need to know that IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE trade is finalized.
3|1|Whether PP includes the addy or not anymore, she had your addy from your email to her.....is the addy issue the reason why she refunded your PP??? |saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:37:51|10/14/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
HAWKS PRIDE #31 #57
4|2|T, read that trader's feedback, she responded to another trade the same way....I wonder if she realizes that PP doesnt always include the mailing addy anymore....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:41:12|10/14/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
HAWKS PRIDE #31 #57
5|3|maybe she doesnt. I would email her and LHK, not fair to keep making trades|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|18:02:52|10/14/2009|
and then cancelling them. 6|4|See my error was not reading the feedback first me bad never again it|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|19:37:13|10/14/2009|
was my first trade with him I did not know that pp stopped the addy thing I always send my addy in an email seems this trader doesn't go back to check emails and that the email they get from pp is supposed to include not only your addy BUT the list of forms you were getting that info was not included in his email to me I will wait for 48 hrs if I don't hear back from him so I can explain that I didn't know it was nolonger supplied by pp if not I will leave appropiate feedback 7|5|T, why dont you post on the forms board for him to email you|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|19:48:53|10/14/2009|
might be easier for you and less trouble :) 8|6|hee hee, do you remember the "soup nazi" from Seinfeld?|couponshelmd|couponshel@comcast.net|19:57:06|10/14/2009|
Sounds like we have a "form nazi" who needs us to jump through hoops :) 9|7|No forms for you !!!!|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|20:06:59|10/14/2009|
1 year...LOL...good one :-O 11|8|lol lol|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|20:29:30|10/14/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 08:06 PM (Eastern)
>by 69.253.199.1991 year...LOL...good one :-O
10|6|I did email him and posted to his post to email me :(|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|20:28:49|10/14/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 07:48 PM (Eastern)
>by 69.253.199.199might be easier for you
>and less trouble :)
12|7|Then you did everything you could on your end|petunia1|sweetpea39@comcast.net|20:31:27|10/14/2009|
hope it works out for you :) 13|5|Good Luck with getting a response!|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|20:36:50|10/14/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 07:37 PM (Eastern)
>by 96.28.100.251was my first trade with
>him I did not know that
>pp stopped the addy thing I
>always send my addy in an
>email seems this trader doesn't go
>back to check emails and that
>the email they get from pp
>is supposed to include not only
>your addy BUT the list of
>forms you were getting that info
>was not included in his email
>to me I will wait for
>48 hrs if I don't hear
>back from him so I can
>explain that I didn't know it
>was nolonger supplied by pp if
>not I will leave appropiate feedback
>
This trader appears not to check emails. Otherwise I would think they would have responsed my emails. The only answers were received in public forum once I left FB. The trader also felt the need to include name-calling rather than handle the issue as an adult. There was a simple solution to our trade, answer an email, but he picked the drama route. I do not consider this a good trade experience. Especially since I passed trading with other reliable members while waiting for a response.
15|6|I read the responce left to you and I won't be chasing after him I didn't get the part in my email where he said he told you that |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|21:23:43|10/14/2009|
you didn't put the forms the money was for in the pp note so I would have been struck down twice like you as well live n learn I guess but if I don't hear from him in 48 hrs I'll be leaving feedback as well 17|7|My first email did|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|21:55:22|10/14/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 09:23 PM (Eastern)
>by 96.28.100.251you didn't put the forms
>the money was for in the
>pp note so I would
>have been struck down twice like
>you as well live n learn
>I guess but if I don't
>hear from him in 48 hrs
>I'll be leaving feedback as
>well
The orginal email I sent had what forms I was looking for. Rather than responding with my email he sent a new email with what he was asking. I responded to his email stating PP was on it's way and included my mailing info. Since we had done trades in the past, without issue, I assumed he had already pulled the forms and was only waiting for mailing info. This all semmed and could have been a simple trade!
18|8|Exactly the way I did it the thing being I thought pp still included the senders naz and me putting my addy in the email is just |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|22:02:40|10/14/2009|
a safety net to confirm that is the addy I want the trade mailed to I made an error on the pp/addy thing and now I'm being punished oh well 16|5|I think PP also limits how much text you can type in the "comments/notes" section.|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|21:49:34|10/14/2009|
Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure you're only allowed to type so much in that area. I understand & agree w/that also cuz there's certainly no need to type a dang novel in that part, & I would think a list of forms would certainly meet or exceed that limit, if ordering several different forms. I'm sorry but these rigid requirements just to trade for a few forms seem ridiculously anal. Good grief! It's reFUNding/trading for Pete's sake, NOT boot camp where Sgt. Carter should be able to bounce a stupid quarter on a meticulously made bed! W/all the bad traders lurking around for their next victim to rip off, people should be appreciative of the email trade responses they receive from GOOD traders. :-p
We live in the Land of the Free only because of the Brave!
Please identify yourself in 1st email w/name/username. Due to recent problem trades, if I haven't traded w/you before, I will probably require you send your end 1st or I'll need LEGIT trade references/feedback. I will be happy to provide the same. IF you plan to hold your end til you've received mine, I will need to know that IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE trade is finalized.
20|2|Paypal - NAZ|Geri|geristiber@webtv.net|23:55:41|10/14/2009|
Paypal doesn't include the NAZ when you send PERSONAL payment. NAZ is there if you click on purchase and pay the fee. 21|3|See I didn't know this and I shouldn't be "punished" for it|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|03:34:35|10/15/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 11:55 PM (Eastern)
>by 76.197.129.38Paypal doesn't include the NAZ
>when you send PERSONAL payment.
>NAZ is there if you click
>on purchase and pay the fee.
>
14|1|Tina-- Emailing you. I have those forms and will send you some no prob.|sunriver|lithiasalt@cheerful.com|21:14:21|10/14/2009|
I just need your address and I will get my dh to mail them for me since I do not have any stamps.
;0)
I got your back, pal!
19|2|V back at ya|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|22:25:17|10/14/2009|
>Posted on Oct-14-09 at 09:14 PM (Eastern)
>by 96.39.161.44I just need your address
>and I will get my dh
>to mail them for me since
>I do not have any stamps.
>;0) I got your back, pal!
>
22|1|Geri was right. On personal paypal payments the address is not sent. it is only sent if you pay as goods|qponsandy|qpons4trade@ameritech.net|11:55:57|10/15/2009|
and the receiver is charged a fee.
I always follow up with an email since most of my trades are done with personal paypal, if the trader doesn't send it with the initial trade request or the follow-up email. To me, it's no big deal to send an email requesting the address or to look back through the earlier emails to see if an address was sent. I don't delete the emails to/from a trader until I have an address and the trade is complete (payment is received).
I don't understand why this person is having an issue with the address not being sent with the paypal payment. I'd rather the trader not put anything in the comments section so paypal doesn't flag the transaction and if the address is sent then I am charged a fee.
JMO.
Sandy
23|2|The thing that gets me is it seems the trader after the initial email mail ignores the other emails come in What if the trade went through but the reciever never got the trade ? would they ignore the|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|12:09:50|10/15/2009|
email? also would they ignore a "Trades in" email? 24|3|Curious....did the trader specifically ask that you send a personal payment so the fees wouldnt be deducted (the reciever of the funds is who is charged the fee, not the sender)?? If so, then this trader will be cancelling a lot of trades since the addy info isnt shown in a personal payment.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|17:03:04|10/15/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
HAWKS PRIDE #31 #57
25|4|Personal paypal|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|18:52:06|10/15/2009|
was required 26|5|Well then, I guess he/she needs to revise her requirements to finalize trades....they can't expect something that is not possible/available at PP.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|19:25:15|10/15/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
~Abraham Lincoln
HAWKS PRIDE #31 #57
29|3|Why......|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|18:09:20|10/16/2009|
...would they not bother to leave FB on a trade? Yet you get a cut rate if YOU leave FB for them. That's a double standard of trade. 32|4|If this is the trader I'm thinking of...|mfrs|mfrs.sv.ca@gmail.com|04:34:09|10/17/2009|
he refused to trade with me because I didn't leave feedback on Fat Wallet for a trade I arranged via RS (and I left feedback here). Fat Wallet doesn't work with the browsers on my home computer, I can only post to it from work. But he's a great trader when he is actually willing to trade.
Some people caution me to be super-cryptic on personal paypal, so I generally write something that refers to my email address. It's imposible to make advance assumptions on which version of information anyone would want.
33|5|It's just a shame that he doesn't allow the chance to explain I thought pp included your addy unless you were not verified |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|05:32:08|10/17/2009|
simple as that 27|2|Paypal - Refund|Geri|geristiber@webtv.net|23:08:49|10/15/2009|
Also found out when you pay with PERSONAL paypal, you can't issue a partial refund - it has to be the same amount that was sent. Some one sent me .17 to much and I couldn't refund her .17 . You can only issue a partial refund with PURCHASE.
Geri 28|3|Did either of you ever receive a reply?|fiddlehead|fiddleheadstwo@myfairpoint.net|17:55:37|10/16/2009|
Did either of you ever receive an email from him after the refund? 30|4|Nope so I had no chance of telling him that I thought that pp included the addy with the pp for verfied users|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|18:31:44|10/16/2009|
>Posted on Oct-16-09 at 05:55 PM (Eastern)
>by 72.65.102.221Did either of you ever
>receive an email from him after
>the refund?
31|5|I just left feedback|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|18:42:43|10/16/2009|
>Posted on Oct-16-09 at 06:31 PM (Eastern) by 96.28.100.251>Posted on Oct-16-09 at 05:55 PM (Eastern)
>>by 72.65.102.221Did either of you ever
>>receive an email from him after
>>the refund?
>
34|4|Not yet|zydeco|kimr@alador.com|23:41:42|10/17/2009|
As I said the only info I got was what they posted in response to the FB I left. One would think they would response to this thread.