HB 1388 PASSED--Just got this in email.
Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U. S. needs to know....
Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday, behind our
backs. You may want to read about it.. It wasn' t mentioned on the
news... just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN
screen.
Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA . This is the news that didn't ' t make the headlines...
By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian refugees and "conflict victims" in Gaza .
The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States ,
was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on
February 4.
Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order
provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to
individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the
Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.
Let ' s review....itemized list of some of Barack Obama ' s most recent
actions since his inauguration:
His first call to any head of state, as president, was to Mahmoud
Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.
His first one-on-one television interview with any news organization
was with Al Arabia television.
His first executive order was to fund/facilitate abortion(s) not just
here within the U. S. , but within the world, using U. S. tax payer
funds.
He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees
halted.
He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.
He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole
and the "terror attack" on 9/11.
Now we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian
refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.
These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the
blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.
Doubtful? To verify this for yourself:
www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488 <http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488>;
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
1|1|oh joy we didn't have enough terrorists here|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|22:37:20|07/30/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 2|1|Good lord....|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|22:39:25|07/30/2009|
What in the world is going on in DC? We have a corrupt, criminal gang running our country. God help us all. I will have to pray harder now. 3|1|gee maybe that 20M could have gone to helping the 9.5% out of work now ya know our OWN citizens|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|22:43:32|07/30/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 5|2|Because that wouldnt serve the international relations agenda, silly girl.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|23:13:49|07/30/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
12|2|Heck, here in the Detroit area, the unemployment rate is 17.5%.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|11:31:59|07/31/2009|
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
13|3|Ohmygosh! That is almost double the national average! |saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|11:39:25|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
4|1|Like I said, I wish I could move to a desert island. This is ridiculous and scary plus why can't they help the people here. We don't have health insurance, so when we go to the DR., ER, or get meds, we have to pay cash and it eats up most of our money :(|RebekkaVA|queen_vulture@msn.com|22:49:40|07/30/2009|
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6|1|Has anyone heard of the Sunshine Act before?? I noticed this on the front page of the Federal Register....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|23:25:24|07/30/2009|
Posted on Jul-30-09 at 11:25 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.175.237
http://www.thefederalregister.com/
Check out numbers 1 through 5. Closed meetings regarding surveillance and enforement...of who or what??
When I click on each FR link, it has Commodities Futures Trading Commission....does that mean surveillance and enforcement of trade laws?
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
7|2|I've heard of the Sunshine Act. It pertains to the open/public records law.|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|08:45:10|07/31/2009|
I have an article I cut out from a newspaper that explains about the Sunshine Law. I'll have to see if I can find that article back cuz I can't remember all the specs. But I know it pertains to open/public records.
Please identify yourself in 1st email. If I haven't traded w/you before, I will require *legit* trade references & will gladly provide the same.
8|1|Why is there so little in the news about this?|Beaglesfly|lmllr77@aol.com|10:54:09|07/31/2009|
I googled it and found a few (very few) articles about it, and most don't even mention this part of the bill.
lauren 9|2|Because our criminal govt., doesn't want the little people to know....|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|11:08:55|07/31/2009|
Anything that is not good for the people is kept quiet and MSM is controlled by the elite only telling us half-truths/lies and to keep us distracted. So, they are passing laws that we don't hear or know about until it's too late. We have a Fascist govt. 11|2|Exactly, Lauren....why indeed? Things like this are happening constantly in Washington the last few months....closed meetings, voting sessions with no media coverage....the media has been seduced, and the big media owners are in bed with the govt anyway.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|11:17:43|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
10|1|Can't say it but ...|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|11:15:04|07/31/2009|
we are {bleeped} 14|2|Robin I was thinking they are blowing sunshine up our arses lol|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|11:42:11|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 15|2|Yeah, and they not only dont buy us dinner, WE'RE buying THEM dinner! Sheesh!|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|11:44:25|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
16|3|And no goodnight kiss!!!|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|11:53:05|07/31/2009|
:( 17|1|the usa currentley has a refugee act in place this bill is to help/aid what is currentley in place.why shouldnt we /usa help people driven from there homes and there own countrys from war|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|12:00:50|07/31/2009|
we should have been out of iraq years ago,not all middle eastern peopl/muslims are bad most are not extremist bomber ect,my ansesters immigrated here from yougslavia now germany my great grandparents they were taken off there land at gun point forced to sign over there land bywhat is said to be hitars army thank god they able/allowed to immigrated to this beautiful country,would you all not help your neighbor if there house burnt down or they hand no food or clothing i would,in the early 70's we had a huge flow of vitanamisee refugees shall we send them back,i beleve in helping people even if we bring them here as refugges,thei is my opion please dont email me on this ,have a blessed day 19|2|So when someone from Gitmo ends up living on your block, you'll be ok with that?? And do you have any idea how many extremists there ARE in the US right now. It is not the concept of accepting refugees into the US, it is the connections and circumstances surrounding those who are being aided.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|12:14:37|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
18|1|heres a wounderful website if who the palistne refugges are(enjoy)|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|12:02:13|07/31/2009|
http://www.un.org/unrwa/links/index.html 20|1|I think I may be sick.....Like I said, they only voted for him because|Barbie|BHumphries@charter.net|13:30:12|07/31/2009|
He promised something for free...healthcare, stimulus, jobs, etc...When are people going to realize that nothing in life is free except the screwing over we are getting by our democratic government and president.
Feedback link:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/1278.html 21|1|how many usa born people or extrimist there are lots i can name a few just off the top of my head |crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:14:44|07/31/2009|
ty 22|1|not all forigners that come to this country are extrimist/bombers/ect most come to live a better life and most usually become usa cetizen|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:16:19|07/31/2009|
ty 23|1|nothing in life is free.......you must work hard and obtain everything you desire in life, i dout people vote because they saw free health care|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:18:22|07/31/2009|
ty 24|2|Lets help all the people in the USA first and not send our Money out of the USA|STEVE|STEVBOLT@WMIS.NET|16:20:25|07/31/2009|
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25|3|THE MONEY DOSNT LEAVE THE US ITS HERE TO HELP THE REFUGEES|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:24:49|07/31/2009|
TY 27|3|If the $ is spent not on USA citizens it doesn't matter if it's in or out of country it's not on OUR people|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|16:28:45|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 26|2|Then somehow you missed election time there were MANY MANY voters on tv who claimed they were expecting help of some financial kind when O got in office|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|16:27:19|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 28|1|Lets help all the people in the USA first WHAT OR WHO NEED HELP ????|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:29:35|07/31/2009|
IM MY OPINION THERE ARE PROGRAMS IN PLACE N ONE MUST SEEK THEM IF THYE NEED THEM,IF YOU WANT SOMETHING GO OUT AND WORK FOR IT.WHAT NEEDS TO BE HELPED IN THE USA????THAT THERES STAVING PEOPLE IN THE APPLACIAHA ,WHAT ABOUT PINE RIDGE INDIAN RESERVATION???IM NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE ME ,I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BE BENIFICAL FOR CHANGE....MANY OF THERM BEING GOVERMENT AFFILIATED ITS CALLED REFORM AND TAKES CHANGE TO MAKE HAPPEN.... 29|2|9.5% of the American people are out of jobs WHERE is the help for them.. our system is so bogged down wth are we doing helping foreigners|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|16:35:09|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 30|1|I DONT BELIEVE ONE DIME OF ANY GOVERMENT MONEY SHOULD GO TO BAIL OUT BANKS,HOMEBUYERS ECT|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:41:33|07/31/2009|
YOU PUT YOURSELF IN BOAT GET YOURSELF WHY WOULD ANYONE BUY A HOME KNOWING THEY COULDNT AFFORD IT WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND BUYS A $500,000.00 DOLLAR HOKME ON 95,000 A YEAR COME ONE IT DOSNT TAKE A LOT TO DO THE MATH ON THAT,IF YOU LOOSE YOUR JOB YOU MAKE CHANGES TO KEEP GOING DONT LIKE HOW YOUR LIFE IS GOING YOU MUST CHANGE IT NOT THE GOVERMENT,TAKE ANY JOB GIVEN ,THEN KEEP APPLYING GO BACK TO SCHOOL ECT,IT CAN BE DONE IVE SEE IT DONE.MY BROTHER WORKED FOR A TITLE COMPANY MAKING OVER $80,000.00 A YEAR HE WALKED INTO WORK THE COMPANY CLOSED ITS DOSE THAT DAY THEY DIDNT GET THERE PAYCHECKS EITHER ,HE APPLIED FOR UNEMPLOYENT AND GOT IT $450.00 A WEEK THE MAX HE CHANGED HIS LIFE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL ON A GRANT THAT HE APPLYED FOR HIMSELF AND WILL GRADUATE IN MAY AND IS WORKING NOW FOR THE COMPANY HE INTERNED WITH A,IT CAN BE DONE BUT ONE MUST WANT CHANGE,AND CHANGE IS NOT EASY 31|1|AMERICA IS CHANGE AND SO ARE JOBS ONE MUST MAKE CHANGES TO GET A JOB....HOW MANY AMERICANS DO YOU KNOW THAT WOULD CHANGE BED PANS|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:43:51|07/31/2009|
CLEAN A OFFICE,COOK AT A FAST FOOD RESTERUNT,???? 32|1|HERS INFO ON WHAT ONE MUST DO TO COME TO THE USA A REFUGEE|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|16:49:28|07/31/2009|
Refugee FAQs(I FOUND THIS ON A CUBAN REUGEE SIGHT BUT CHECKED WITH OTHER COUNTRYS AND THEY ARE THE SAME ONLY 90 DAY ASSISTANCE............
Q: What is a refugee?
Answer: A refugee is a person who is determined to be unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of their country of origin because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
Q: What is the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program?
Answer: The U.S. Refugee Admissions Program allows refugees from all parts of the world who meet the criteria outlined in the annual Presidential Determination to be resettled in the United States. The program in Cuba is administered by the State Department Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration (PRM), in conjunction with the United States Citizenship & Immigration Services (USCIS) of the Department of Homeland Security, the Office of Refugee Resettlement of the Department of Health and Human Services, and the International Organization for Migration.
Q: How do I claim refugee status with the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program?
Answer: To apply for refugee status with the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, a person must complete a Preliminary Questionnaire and deliver it to the Havana Refugee Office in person, via mail, or via fax. The written request can be placed in a drop-box located at the gate of the Refugee Office, located at Malecón and J, faxed to (537) 834-4515, or mailed to:
Sección de Intereses do los Estados Unidos
Oficina de Refugiados
Calzada e L y M
Vedado, Ciudad Habana
Q: As a refugee, will I be sent to the U.S?
Answer: If you are approved by the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, you will be resettled in the United States.
Q: If I am resettled in the U.S., for how long will I receive financial support? Will I be provided a house, car and job?
Answer: You will receive housing and other relocation assistance for up to 90 days after your arrival in the United States. Different states offer different benefits. You may be eligible for other refugee assistance programs also. You are expected to become a self-sufficient member of society as soon after your arrival as possible.
Q: When can I start to work in the United States?
Answer: You will be expected to find employment as soon after arrival as possible.
Q: Can I visit family members in Cuba while I am a refugee in the U.S.?
Answer: Once you obtain Permanent Legal Resident (approximately one year after arriving) status you may travel to Cuba, though subject to the same travel restrictions as other Cubans who wish to visit family in Cuba. You are strongly encouraged to ask for the assistance of an experienced immigration attorney or non-governmental organization if you decide to return to Cuba.
Q:What happens if I change my marital status or have a newborn child during the process?
Answer: You should contact the Refugee Office as soon as your marital status has changed or you have a newborn child. A change of marital status could affect your eligibility and the eligibility of dependent family members to participate in the program; a newborn child would normally be added as a member of your family and would not affect your eligibility.
Q: I am a sole surviving son and the sole source of support for my mother. Can she be included in my case?
Answer: Each case consists of an applicant and his or her dependent spouse and unmarried children under the age of 21. Both you and your mother should submit applications together.
Q: USCIS approved my case but I have not received my exit permit from the Cuban Immigration. What do I do?
Answer: Please inform the Refugee Unit and wait until you receive permission from Cuban Immigration to leave the country. The U.S. Refugee Admissions Program cannot assist you in obtaining an exit permit.
Q:Where will I live in the United States? Do I have a choice?
Answer: The Refugee Admissions Program attempts to place refugees in cities where family members already live. Also, refugees will be placed in cities where voluntary organizations have programs to assist newly arriving refugees.
Q: How long does it take to become a Legal Permanent Resident (“green card” holder) and U.S. citizen?
Answer: A refugee can apply for Legal Permanent Resident status one year after admission to the United States. After being a Legal Permanent Resident for five years, a refugee can apply to become a U.S. citizen.
Q: Can I travel to the United States before my approved spouse and/or children?
Answer: If the principal applicant of a case decides for any reason to travel before his or her approved family members, they must also travel to the United States within four months of his or her arrival. If they do not travel within four months of the principal applicant, they would have to be reconsidered.
33|2|Good luck to them finding jobs (as stated as a requirement).... even current American citizens are having trouble|couponshelmd|couponshel@comcast.net|17:09:01|07/31/2009|
I am a firm believer that if you work hard, you can make all of your dreams come true. However, it is getting increasingly more difficult to earn enough income to combat inflation, let alone make a positive economic investment (plus, the real estate market has made many people's primary investment an equity loss). This includes hard working families... not just people who bought an expensive home.
There are countries who do not allow foreign born individuals to make permanent residence ... because of limited resources, etc. My personal opinion: there would be nothing wrong with the refugees finding another country to help them for a few decades... at the rate we are going, we as Americans are ALL going to be living like Third World citizens before the next election. Wonder what country is going to open its doors to me and pay my way for 90 days?? 34|3|Shel when you find said country lmk.. I'll come with ya lol|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|17:10:17|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 35|4|Ok :) Sounds good , as long as they take coupons!|couponshelmd|couponshel@comcast.net|17:33:15|07/31/2009|
Hugs!
Shel
PS, if we both were to move to Texas, we could get a BIG spread and build two houses :) We could be neighbors on our own land 36|5|I want lots of acres... be able to send all the boys out and have to ring a triangle to get em back|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|17:36:37|07/31/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 39|2|Can you link where you found this? It mentions specifically Cuban refugees, so I'd be interested to know if this applies to ALL refugees, or does each country get it's own regulations to become a refugee? |saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|19:26:17|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
37|1|First of all let me say that I love you guys & I'm glad to have you|Jessiesgirl81|sdipi607@verizon.net|18:49:05|07/31/2009|
>Posted on Jul-30-09 at 10:27 PM (Eastern)
>by 98.213.175.237HB 1388 PASSED--Just got this
>in email.
> Whether you are an Obama fan,
>or not, EVERYONE IN THE U.
>S. needs to know....
>Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed yesterday,
>behind our backs. You may want
>to read about it.. It wasn'
>t mentioned on the news... just
>went by on the ticker tape
>at the bottom of the CNN
>screen.
>Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars
>to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the
>USA . This is the news
>that didn't ' t make the
>headlines...
>By executive order, President Barack Obama has
>ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million
>in "migration assistance" to the Palestinian
>refugees and "conflict victims" in Gaza
>.
>The "presidential determination", which allows hundreds of
>thousands of Palestinians with ties to
>Hamas to resettle in the United
>States , was signed on January
>27 and appeared in the Federal
>Register on February 4.
>Few on Capitol Hill, or in the
>media, took note that the order
>provides a free ticket replete with
>housing and food allowances to individuals
>who have displayed their overwhelming support
>to the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
>in the parliamentary election of January
>2006.
>Let ' s review....itemized list of some
>of Barack Obama ' s most
>recent actions since his inauguration:
>His first call to any head of
>state, as president, was to Mahmoud
>Abbas, leader of Fatah party in
>the Palestinian territory.
>His first one-on-one television interview with any
>news organization was with Al Arabia
>television.
>His first executive order was to fund/facilitate
>abortion(s) not just here within the
>U. S. , but within the
>world, using U. S. tax payer
>funds.
>He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all
>military trials of detainees halted.
>He ordered overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.
>
>He withdrew all charges against the masterminds
>behind the USS Cole and the
>"terror attack" on 9/11.
>Now we learn that he is allowing
>hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refuges
>to move to, and live in,
>the US at American taxpayer expense.
>
>These important, and insightful, issues are being
>"lost" in the blinding bail-outs and
>"stimulation" packages.
>Doubtful? To verify this for yourself:
>www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488 http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488>;
>A government big enough to give you
>everything you want, is strong enough
>to take everything you have. --Thomas
>Jefferson--
38|1|Thanks for the entertainment, I love these posts|Jessiesgirl81|sdipi607@verizon.net|19:23:49|07/31/2009|
In the last 2 days I have lost my Cousin & my Aunt. After posting on facebook I started getting e-mails from confused friends & I felt the need to explain the family history. Then I read this post. Again, I feel the "calling to vent".
Yes, I get angry when I hear about all the gov't food stamps, housing, medical, etc being given away. I cannot even get food stamps & medical & I am a fulltime student living on student loans that will probably take me the remainder of my working years to pay back. That is, if I can get a job when I graduate. AND my Grandfather came here from Italy with his little sister, across the ocean on a boat, with probably only $10.00 & a suitcase. After he got thru Ellis Island they stuck him on a bus & when he got off the bus in Jersey City, NJ he got robbed. NOBODY gave him food stamps, free housing, and there were no coupons printed in Italian. These IMMIGRANTS lived in neighborhoods with other immigrants of the same nationality & pooled all their resources together and worked as a group in search of a better life, the American Dream. Their children, my parents had it tough because they had to help their PARENTS TRANSLATE EVERYTHING. Our generation was only taught to speak english because that was what my Grandfather wanted, for us to be Americans. So, although I'd like to complain about immigrants, I have to remember my family were immigrants. I do however have a problem with illegal immigrants. I also have a problem with coupons printed in anything other than English, store doors printed with any language other than english & TAX dollars being spent on programs to teach children to speak english so they can attend school. As for the refugees, I think the U.S. has this policy because of the inhumane treatment that occurs to innocent people. The Holocaust & Hitler are a reminder of what happened for years while the U.S. sat back & did nothing. U.S. foreign policy has changed drastically since Vietnam as well. For years in Haiti & Cuba many people were killed because of political reasons which although barbaric to us, that is normal to foreign govt's. We absolutley need to have a refugee policy. Many of the problems in other countries are caused by OUR INTERFERENCE. Speaking of Afghanistan....did anyone see Charlie Wilson's War??? After WWII the Cold War began. It was the U.S. against the U.S.S.R. In 1979 the Soviet's raided Afghanistan & since the Soviet's were our enemies we armed the Afghan guerillas with the soldier-launched missles that defeated the Soviets & caused the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan. Who knew 20 years later these would be the missles that would take down all the U.S. helicopters in that region. When the U.S.S.R. broke up, we thought our troubles were over. Our current enemy, the Taliban, well we have ourselves to thank, we created them. My last beef is about the Patriot Act. I cannot believe the U.S. Gov't can monitor all our phone calls, e-mails, even beam via satellite into our kitchens & see what we are eating for dinner but cannot find OSAMA BIN LADEN OR the Taliban. Come on! Thanks for listening.
46|2|I agree with you, and I think they killed Osama bin Laden early on|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|04:01:36|08/01/2009|
and Bush would never admit it so he could keep hyping us up and spending all our national budget for the next 20 years on the war. jmho 40|1|kristi hers the web site info|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|20:26:17|07/31/2009|
http://havana.usint.gov/refugee_faqs.html 42|2|It was me who asked, lol....It would seem this is specifically for Cuban refugees.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|20:41:10|07/31/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
41|1|refugees usually take the jobs nobody wants cooks at fast food places,taxi drivers,nigth time security,parking attendents ect|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|20:34:17|07/31/2009|
how many americans do you know thayt work these types of jobs???? 43|2|There are people on this board who work those jobs|couponshelmd|couponshel@comcast.net|20:50:42|07/31/2009|
Before you generalize, you might want to realize that there are people who post on this board and coupon/rebate/refund who work at the jobs you mention; where the wages are not enough to support a family. They are current U.S. citizens, to the best of my knowledge.
Feel free to post a website that says most minimum wage jobs are held by refugees and recent immigrants. I still won't believe that more refugees will help the current unemployment rate. I know too many people who have lost their jobs and are doing whatever work they can find to put food on the table and keep a roof over their heads. I am sure they are looking into whatever resources are available to them, but I am fairly sure they are not being offered the amount of support a refugee is being offered, according to your most recent link.
Thank you for letting me post on your thread, I can tell this topic has deeply affected you that you are researching the matter for all of us. 44|2|I believe if the illegals were sent back from where they came, and those jobs opened up... you'd see a LOT of Americans take them|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|20:52:49|07/31/2009|
I know, it doesn't sound like it would happen, but this is like the chicken and egg theory. Are Americans NOT taking these jobs because the illegals are, or are the illegals taking them because the Americans don't want them? There are currently an estimated 700,000 unemployed Americans who have run out of unemployment benefits. I'm SURE they would take anything they could to get food in their homes or even a home. So keeping the illegals for these jobs doesn't cut it.
As for Jessica's comments -- this country is build on immigrants. My grandparents also came from Italy in the 20's and they worked hard and learned the language and while they started in immigrant neighborhoods, they Americanized themselves to move away and mix in. And they didn't get any handouts. None. Millions and millions of people came her and did that. My father and his siblings learned to speak Italian in the house and then had to learn English so they could go to school. The one thing you mentioned was that we spend tax money to teach these illegals English --- I don't think that's true. In my area of the world, we are spending tax money to teach the American children how to speak Spanish and Portuguese so that THEY can converse with the other children. Helloooooooo....
I believe that the American Dream is available to everyone. But you have to freaking EARN it.
I don't remember who made the reference to Hitler and the Holocaust, but I have many Jewish friends who lost relatives to this horror and they live with a "never forget" motto. We have a lot to learn from that. While most of us would admit that what Hitler did was awful and surely nothing like that could ever happen again, and that people aren't that trusting or gullible... look around you. Our protests have to expand beyond this column or we will all find outselves going for a ride. I don't know what that move is - I hope someone does. It's like I see it all happening in slow motion but I don't know how to stop it. 45|1|hers a website from lutheran family service with great facts|crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|00:49:06|08/01/2009|
http://www.lssne.org/Frequently-Asked-Question-about-Refugee-Resettlement.aspx