Hubby just sent this info to me - Wonder if we will ever hear the outcome? Didn't Obama sign Executive Order Barring Release Of His Birth Certificate?
Snopes mentioned this in a short statement, but did not elaborate.
(Now you know why he is so eager to get Sotomayor appointed!)
BOMBSHELL: Supreme Court now has Obama Citizenship
AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group Americans for Freedom of Information has Released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking.
Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue.
Britain's Daily Mail also carried the story in a front-page article titled, Obama Eligibility Questioned, leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U..K.
In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama' s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS THAT THE MEDIA WON'T EMBRACE!
1|1|It was also in the news today that Hawaii has reconfirmed that his bith cert is real |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|17:44:10|07/28/2009|
>Posted on Jul-28-09 at 05:35 PM (Eastern)
>by 68.37.73.164Hubby just sent this info
>to me - Wonder if we
>will ever hear the outcome?
>Didn't Obama sign Executive Order Barring
>Release Of His Birth Certificate?
>
>Snopes mentioned this in a short statement,
>but did not elaborate. (Now you
>know why he is so eager
>to get Sotomayor appointed!)
>BOMBSHELL: Supreme Court now has Obama
>Citizenship AP- WASHINGTON
>D.C. - In a move certain
>to fuel the debate over Obama's
>qualifications for the presidency, the group
>Americans for Freedom of Information has
>Released copies of President Obama's college
>transcripts from Occidental College. Released
>today, the transcript indicates that Obama,
>under the name Barry Soetoro, received
>financial aid as a foreign student
>from Indonesia as an undergraduate at
>the school. The transcript was released
>by Occidental College in compliance with
>a court order in a suit
>brought by the group in the
>Superior Court of California. The transcript
>shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for
>financial aid and was awarded a
>fellowship for foreign students from the
>Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To
>qualify, for the scholarship, a student
>must claim foreign citizenship. This document
>would seem to provide the smoking
>gun that many of Obama's detractors
>have been seeking. Along
>with the evidence that he was
>first born in Kenya and there
>is no record of him ever
>applying for US citizenship, this is
>looking pretty grim. The news
>has created a firestorm at the
>White House as the release casts
>increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and
>qualification to serve as president. When
>reached for comment in London, where
>he has been in meetings with
>British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama
>smiled but refused comment on the
>issue. Britain's Daily Mail
>also carried the story in a
>front-page article titled, Obama Eligibility Questioned,
>leading some to speculate that the
>story may overshadow economic issues on
>Obama's first official visit to
>the U..K. In a
>related matter, under growing pressure from
>several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia
>announced that the Supreme Court agreed
>on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning
>Obama's legal eligibility to serve as
>President in a case brought by
>Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This
>lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified
>him from serving as president. Donofrio's
>case is just one of 18
>suits brought by citizens demanding proof
>of Obama' s citizenship or qualification
>to serve as president.
>Gary Kreep of the United States
>Justice Foundation has released the
>results of their investigation of Obama's
>campaign spending. This study estimates that
>Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
>in campaign funds in the past
>year with eleven law firms in
> 12 states for legal resources
>to block disclosure of any of
>his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated
>that the investigation is still ongoing
>but that the final report will
>be provided to the U.S. Attorney
>General, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has
>refused to comment on the matter.
> LET OTHER
>FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS THAT THE
>MEDIA WON'T EMBRACE!
>
2|2|Then why was it originally stated that....|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|20:38:27|07/28/2009|
Obama's birth certificate in the State of Hawaii shows is not a proof of birth in Hawaii? Also, no doctor signed that certificate. How do you prove that he was born in Hawaii if no one can prove the delivery was in fact there? He's been fudging his birth certificate for so long now, it's obvious to me that he's not a natural born citizen of the US. JMHO! 3|3|From what I've read Hawaii will issue a certificate of live birth to anybody|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|20:47:34|07/28/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 4|4|My understanding on the Hawaii certificate was that it wasnt a birth certificate to state he was born in Hawaii, just that it states he was born to a US citizen (his mother)...but I've not seen the actual document to understand the difference entirely. |saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|21:30:25|07/28/2009|
Posted on Jul-28-09 at 09:30 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.175.237
I can't remember the exact term used, but something like registration of birth, or something like that.
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
5|5|Wow, either way he is lying now or has lied before|Barbie|BHumphries@charter.net|10:01:59|07/29/2009|
Feedback link:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/1278.html 6|6|Hmmm, lying... what a shocker... NOT!|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|10:16:38|07/29/2009|
grrrr 7|1|Regardless of where he was born, he was born to an AMERICAN mother and he lived in the States, making him a CITIZEN of the United States. I am not an Obama fan, nor was I a McCain fan, who by the way, was not born in the United States, but a simple citizen, and I think time could be more well spent on other issues that will help the American people.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|10:37:30|07/29/2009|
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
8|2|Yes, that is what I was trying to say I guess, lol.....whether the BC is a birth certificate or a registration of birth, he was born to an American citizen.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|16:51:35|07/29/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
9|1|Just to play devils advocate...m...|Isha|tm2ewing@sbcglobal.net|20:49:25|07/29/2009|
Just playing devils advocate... I was born here in the states and my mother was here on a Visa (from Mexico) NOT a US citizen... so with what y'all said I should be a Mexican citizen 'cause thats what my mom was?
Not trying to start a fight, just saying :)
Sorry crummy day... I'll go finish my chocolate now...
***Mailing from Northern California***
Please leave feedback if we've traded... Thanks :) Melissa
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/1113.html
10|2|Is the US the only country that has it all laid out like that? That if a person is born here regardless of the parent(s) status, the child is a citizen AND that if a child of a US citizen is born elsewhere they are automatically a citizen? I am not at all familiar with other countries' laws in that regard....oh, and pass the chocolate! LOL|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|21:08:01|07/29/2009|
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
--Thomas Jefferson--
11|3|I believe that there are a few countries that are set up like that. I know it is that way in Canada. My Grandmother was born in the States to Canadian parents ( they were on vacation) and she was automatically an American and Canadian Citizen.|Ranalt|ainebailey@gmail.com|21:12:38|07/29/2009|
My mother was born in the States before my Grandfather became an U.S. citizen so she automatically became a dual citizen like my Grandmother.
Life is like a cup of tea,
It's all in how you make it.
Lisa
12|4|My niece was born in Malaysia to a Malaysian Mother and American Father.......|vickijo|vjdesmond@rochester.rr.com|08:04:09|07/30/2009|
In Malaysia she is considered Malaysian only. In the United States she is considered to have 2 citizenships - Malaysian and United States.
Thanks!
Vicki, NY 13|5|So based on the duel citizen ship rule and that is what he falls under can one then claim their citizenship in the other country to claim school aid? |teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|09:12:38|07/30/2009|
Gosh knows there are plenty of loop holes out there that allow tons of people to get things that common sense says they shouldn't lol 14|1|My friends son has dual citizenship....|Quietwaters|Quietwaters39@hotmail.com|09:23:18|07/30/2009|
he was born in South Africa, to American Parents. The thing is Obama should never have recieved financial aid for being a foreign student, you just can't have it both ways.
************
do you really think that they the goverment and its leaders would not have cleared this befor he ran for office ,hes a citizen of the usa beacasuse he was born to an american woman ,american is every nationality,religion and color now,i have ready many differnt biographys on this man never said he recieved scholarship but his dad did a program set up by the kennedys,just my opions no emails or post please. 16|1|according to snoops.com this info is false he recieved no financial aid |crazymomx2|crazymomx3girls@hotmail.com|09:49:27|07/30/2009|
ty 17|2|he is an american citizen so whazzup with this crazyness?|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|04:18:47|08/01/2009|
why stir up the people on this board, to what purpose?
why all this negativity against the president?
sometimes I think this country will come to an end before we see an end to racist rhetoric disguised as fact finding.
In case no one has noticed, this kind of rhetoric and invective was the first step in the war against the jews in nazi germany, don't fool yourselves.
Are there neo-nazis on this board trying to recruit people to their causes? that is what it looks like to me, if a Black president makes you afraid, ask yourself how people of color have survived UNAFRAID with almost all white governments, police, teachers, bankers, social workers, all the time and everywhere in the history of this country.
I know this will gall you guys who are promoting this crap but you can use the courage of every person of color who has to interact with white people all day long and who have to refust to be afraid all the day long because of it.
Personally, I thnik being afraid of someone that you define as different from yourself makes a burden for yourself that you cannot support...
I am curious why there was not this hue and cry while Bush was flushing our future down the drain with the things he was doing?
Why is there so much intense criticism on a sitting president who has no track record yet, and yet an idiot like Bush was re-elected? Is it the old adage that if you are white you are alright and if you are Black, get back?
If you guys have the nerve to keep posting this crap I have the nerve to keep posting in response to it, believe it. 18|3|Well said, glennie....|inthesticks|inthesticks@alltel.net|04:47:34|08/01/2009|
I totally agree. Scrolling through the General Chat forum, I see many anti-Obama postings, primarily started by one person. This nation is fundamentally sound, and President Obama is not going to do anything to upset that. IF anything, the man is trying to help the country out of the economic mess that it is in now. Like glennie stated, Obama has no track record yet; however, people feel free to bash the man and his administration anyhow. THAT is what is scary...the lynch-mob mentality being displayed in these anti-Obama threads. 19|4|For me, it's nothing to do with racism....|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|08:10:49|08/01/2009|
It's that both republican and democratic parties are corrupt. Both are for big-govt, high taxes, more socialist programs, etc., etc., it doesn't matter. Ex-Bush did a lot of damage too. It's the global elite, fed reserve/world bankers that controls everything in the world - planning wars, false flag events, our economy, our stock markets and so forth. These people are evil. Their goal from all this mess is towards one world govt - NWO (New World Order). This is enslavement of the people. That's why our freedoms are being taken away more and more each day. Why our criminals in DC are shredding our Constitution and I believe there are now 30 states claiming sovereignty-10th Amendment. Our Presidents are chosen by the elite before they're elected! The voting system is rigged. Obama was groomed for 30 years by Henry Kissinger-member of the elite. Who are the elites of the world? CFR, Trilateral, Bilderbergers, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers, Skulls & Bones (Bush Family are members). G.W. Bush's Grandfather, Preston Bush funded money to Hitler. Look it up. The UN was also set up by these elite as part of this NWO agenda. We fund millions to the UN every year! For example, WHO/FDA/MSM, are funded by the elite using our taxpayer monies. Why do the elites of the world want this? It's because they want to control the people, greed, money, power. We are the Serfs. It's human nature and has happened over and over throughout History. Most of the people don't know what's happening, many know something is wrong but can't figure it out. But, many are waking up now and the elite are getting scared. My husband and I did a lot of reading, research to put the pieces of the puzzle together and came to the conclusion that everything out there is a lie, a game, to keep us distracted. The MSM is controlled by the elite feeding us propaganda, half-truths/lies daily. Books we've read - Aristotle, Plato, Economics-Austrian/Keynesian, War is a Racket by Smedley Butler & many more. I asked my husband several months ago, why won't the elite just leave us alone, let us live our lives, we only have one life to live? His reply - it's human nature. Look at what's been happening - last Fall, stock market crash, housing market crash, the foreclosures, massive job lay-offs, our dollar becoming worthless, deep recession soon to be depression. Then what, another world war. See the pattern? There will be high inflation, then deflation. I've never seen so many commercial, retail, houses for sale. The malls are next. This swine flu mess - a man-made virus, all planned by the elite. They want to reduce the world's population by 80%! Next, they will use food as a weapon. This will spark riots in cities, chaos, etc. Other countries have gone through this - food rationing, including WWII. Our country is not immune. So yeah, I am very concerned for what's coming and it's going to effect all of us. And yes, this is insanity with all that's going on, to keep us distracted from the real agenda. The Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano stated recently who the "terrorists" are now - freedom-loving folks like us, law-abiding gun owners, our vets - what's wrong with this picture? I don't need to explain anymore, because this is what's happening in our country. Good day to all. 20|5|So Sharon as we are being taken out one by one like ants at a picnic what country are you and your family moving to?|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|08:29:19|08/01/2009|
>Posted on Aug-01-09 at 08:10 AM (Eastern)
>by 68.37.73.164It's that both republican and
>democratic parties are corrupt. Both
>are for big-govt, high taxes, more
>socialist programs, etc., etc., it doesn't
>matter. Ex-Bush did a
>lot of damage too. It's
>the global elite, fed reserve/world bankers
>that controls everything in the world
>- planning wars, false flag events,
>our economy, our stock markets and
>so forth. These people are
>evil. Their goal from all
>this mess is towards one world
>govt - NWO (New World Order).
> This is enslavement of the
>people. That's why our freedoms
>are being taken away more and
>more each day. Why our
>criminals in DC are shredding our
>Constitution and I believe there are
>now 30 states claiming sovereignty-10th Amendment.
> Our Presidents are chosen by
>the elite before they're elected!
>The voting system is rigged.
>Obama was groomed for 30 years
>by Henry Kissinger-member of the elite.
> Who are the elites of
>the world? CFR, Trilateral, Bilderbergers,
>Rothschilds, Rockerfellers, Skulls & Bones (Bush
>Family are members). G.W. Bush's
>Grandfather, Preston Bush funded money to
>Hitler. Look it up.
>The UN was also set up
>by these elite as part of
>this NWO agenda. We fund
>millions to the UN every year!
> For example, WHO/FDA/MSM, are funded
>by the elite using our taxpayer
>monies. Why do the elites
>of the world want this?
>It's because they want to control
>the people, greed, money, power.
>We are the Serfs. It's human
>nature and has happened over and
>over throughout History. Most of
>the people don't know what's happening,
>many know something is wrong but
>can't figure it out. But,
>many are waking up now and
>the elite are getting scared.
>My husband and I did a
>lot of reading, research to put
>the pieces of the puzzle together
>and came to the conclusion that
>everything out there is a lie,
>a game, to keep us distracted.
> The MSM is controlled by
>the elite feeding us propaganda, half-truths/lies
>daily. Books we've read -
>Aristotle, Plato, Economics-Austrian/Keynesian, War is a
>Racket by Smedley Butler & many
>more. I asked my husband
>several months ago, why won't the
>elite just leave us alone, let
>us live our lives, we only
>have one life to live?
>His reply - it's human nature.
> Look at what's been happening
>- last Fall, stock market crash,
>housing market crash, the foreclosures, massive
>job lay-offs, our dollar becoming worthless,
>deep recession soon to be depression.
> Then what, another world war.
> See the pattern? There
>will be high inflation, then deflation.
> I've never seen so many
>commercial, retail, houses for sale.
>The malls are next. This
>swine flu mess - a man-made
>virus, all planned by the elite.
> They want to reduce the
>world's population by 80%! Next,
>they will use food as a
>weapon. This will spark riots
>in cities, chaos, etc. Other
>countries have gone through this -
>food rationing, including WWII. Our
>country is not immune. So
>yeah, I am very concerned for
>what's coming and it's going to
>effect all of us. And
>yes, this is insanity with all
>that's going on, to keep us
>distracted from the real agenda.
>The Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano
>stated recently who the "terrorists" are
>now - freedom-loving folks like us,
>law-abiding gun owners, our vets -
>what's wrong with this picture?
>I don't need to explain anymore,
>because this is what's happening in
>our country. Good day to all.
>
21|6|sharon-- if you don't like it here - leave|ppe1952|MATWELL3@ROCHESTER.RR.COM|08:38:46|08/01/2009|
i odn't think you will find many more countries that will offer you the ablilty to say or print the things you do and stir up the emotions of the people around you.
whether you like obama or not he is the president until we have elections again and if people are happy with him he can be replaced. we are also one of the few countires that have election open to most citizens of legal age regardless of sex, religion, race etc.
now if you are so unhappy with the government leave.
Remember your manners: when god answers your prayers----- say thank you. 23|7|You don't understand, you're missing the point, but that's OK!|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|08:44:36|08/01/2009|
nt 22|6|Moving to NH this year....|Sharon|s_forshee@hotmail.com|08:41:14|08/01/2009|
joined FreeStateProject, the only one in the country. My husband & I feel we have more of a chance there to fight for our freedoms. We're tired of this police state. Like I said, there are 30 states (not NJ) claiming sovereignty-10th Amendment. We still have a fighting chance, including Audit the Fed by Ron Paul happening right now. We need a miracle to bring down the Feds. 24|1|There is a bill in Congress that people need to call their Representatives and ask them to co-sponsor and vote for.|ForrestLayne|wechuckwood@gmail.com|09:33:48|08/01/2009|
"Congressman Bill Posey, a freshman Representative from Florida, has introduced a bill in the U.S. Congress that would require presidential candidates to provide a birth certificate and other documents to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
His bill, H.R. 1503, is an amendment to the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, which increased required campaign fund disclosure and was later amended to establish the Federal Elections Commission. It's language is short and to the point:
"to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
Then if Obama decides to run again in 2012, he like anyone else will have to provide proof.