PLEASE NO BASHING I HAVE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH CANT TAKE ANYMORE. AS ALOT OF YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALOT IN THE PAST FEW YEARS MORE THEN I CAN HANDLE. WELL ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY OLDEST SON AND HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH ALOT WITH HIM IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. I HAVE TRIED TO TAKE HIM TO GO GET HELP HE WONT GO, I TRY TO GET HIM TO TAKE HIS MEDS HE WONT TAKE THEM. HE WONT WORK OR DO ANYTHING ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS STAY OUT ALL NIGHT AND SLEEP ALL DAY AND IN BETWEEN MAKE EVERYONES LIFE HERE A LIVING H*LL. ITS LIKE WALKING ON EGGSHELLS WHEN MY SON IS HERE YOU HAVE TO WATCH EVERYTHING YOU SAY OR DO OR HE GOES OFF, I LIVE IN FEAR. HE THINKS HE RUNS THE HOUSE AND CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS.IF HE WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE TV,COMPUTER OR VIDEO GAMES HE THINKS HE CAN.IF ANYONE SAYS ANYTHNG TO HIM HE CUSSES AND SCREAMS AND GOES ON A RAMPAGE. I HAVE THROWN HIM OUT A FEW TIMES CAUSE I COULDNT DEAL WITH HIS CRAP BUT I WIND UP TAKING HIM BACK BECAUSE AS A MOTHER I FEEL GUILTY, I LOVE HIM HE IS MY SON. I HAVE BEGGED HIM TO GET HELP AND GET HIS LIFE TOGETHER, HE ALWAYS PROMISES BUT NEVER DOES.THIS LAST TIME I TOOK HIM IN I TOLD HIM THIS WAS IT I WASNT PUTING UP WITH HIS CRAP ANYMORE. THAT HE WAS GONNA LEARN TO RESPECT EVERYONE AND DO RIGHT OR HE COULDNT LIVE HERE ITS NOT RIGHT THE WAY HE DOES ALL OF US. WELL THE FIRST 2 WEEKS HE WAS BACK HE WAS OK BUT OF COURSE THATS CAUSE HE STAYED GONE ALOT WITH HIS FRIENDS. THEN I NOTICED HE STARTED GETTING MOUTHY AGAIN AND GOING BACK TO HIS OLD WAYS. I SAT HIM DOWN AND TOLD HIM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND YOU SAID YOU WOULD CHANGE AND LET HIM KNOW HE WAS MESSING UP AGAIN AND THAT I WOULD GO WITH HIM TO GET HELP THAT SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT. WELL HE FREAKED OUT ON ME CUSSED ME FROM ONE END TO ANOTHER TOLD ME IF I DIDNT SHUT UP HE WOULD BASH MY FACE IN, ETC.I TOLD HIM HE WASNT GONNA TALK TO ME LIKE THAT AND HE NEEDED TO LEAVE. HE WOULDNT, SO I WENT FOR MY PHONE TO CALL THE COPS AND HE YANKED MY PHONE FROM ME, I TRIED TO GET IT BACK AND COULDNT. SO I WENT TO LEAVE TO GET OUT OF HOUSE AWAY FROM HIM AND HE KEPT PUSHING ME BACK HE WOULDNT LET ME LEAVE. i KEPT FIGHTING HIM TO LEAVE. THEN HE GRABS A KNIFE AND PUTS IT TO MY THROAT AND THREATENS TO KILL ME. I TOLD HIM TO LET ME GO TO STOP AND THINK OF WHAT HE WAS DOING HE THEN PUSHED ME INTO A STAND WHICH I FELL OVER AND LANDED ON A TABLE WHICH BRUISED UP MY BACK AND HURT MY BACK. WHEN I GOT UP I TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO THE POLICE AND HE TOLD ME ABOUT TIME THE POLICE GOT THERE HE WOULD BE DEAD CAUSE HE WOULD KILL HIMSELF. I DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO AS CRAZY AS HE WAS I WAS AFRAID HE WOULD AND I DIDNT WANT HIM TO KILL HIMSELF. HE IS MY SON I DONT WANT HIM DEAD JUST WANT HIM TO GET HELP. I DIDNT CALL THE POLICE I DIDNT TELL ANYONE WHICH HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME CAUSE I HAVE BEEN SUFFERING CAUSE OF IT. I SHOULDVE CALLED I KNOW BUT I WAS SCARED TOO, SO I HURT INSTEAD. THEN FOR A WEEK THINGS WERE GOOD AND HE WENT LOOKING FOR A JOB SO HE SAYS AND HE PROMISED ME HE WOULD GO FOR HELP WITH ME AND I WOULD TAKE HIM TO HIS APPT THE FOLLOWING WEEK THAT WE HAD SET UP. WELL OVER THE WEEKEND HE CAME HOME AFTER BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT AND GOING ON NO SLEEP AND DECIDES HE WAS GONNA SLEEP ON COUCH. I TOLD HIM WHY DONT YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS WHERE ITS QUIETER BUT HE INSISTED HE WOULD BE OK. WELL HIS SISTER WAS TRYING TO RECORD A SONG TO HER PHONE AND HE KEPT MAKING NOISES TRYING TO RUIN SONG. WE ASKED HIM NICELY SEVERAL TIMES TO STOP AND HE WOULDNT. BY THIS TIME MY DAUGHTER WAS IN TEARS HE WAS STRESSING HER OUT SO BAD AND I WAS STRESSED TOO. I TOLD HIM TO KNOCK IT OFF I ASK HIM MANY TIMES TO STOP NOW STOP OR GO DOWNSTAIRS. NEXT THING HE JUMPS OFF COUCH IN MY DAUGHTERS FACE THREATENING TO BASH HER FACE IN I HAD TO COME BETWEEN THEM THEN HE STARTED ON MY YOUNGST SON CAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HIS SISTER AND ME. I MADE THE OLDER TWO GO IN MY ROOM AND LOCK DOOR. I COME OUT HE IS THREATENING TO KILL US ALL, WAS SLAMMING DOORS TRYING TO RIP THEM OFF THEIR HINGES, FLIPPED AND SHATTERED MY COFFEE TABLE SHATTERED A DOWNSTAIRS LIGHT AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS. I CALLED THE COPS AND HE LEFT BEFORE THEY GOT HERE BUT ON HIS WAY OUT THE DOOR HE THREATENED ME THAT IF HE GOES TO JAIL HE WILL GET OUT FIND ME AND KILL ME.COPS CAME TOOK REPORTS, TOOK PICTURES, I FILED A RESTRAINING ORDER HE IS NOT COMING BACK HERE. I WILL NOT LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE, THIS KID WILL NOT HELP HIMSELF AND I AM TIRED OF THE MENTAL, EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE. I WILL NOT PUT MY OTHER TWO KIDS THROUGH IT EITHER. I HAVE DONE NOTHING TO THIS KID TO DESERVE THIS, I HAVE DONE THE BEST I COULD FOR HIM, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIM. HE HAS BEEN THROUGH THINGS IN HIS LIFE BUT NOT CAUSE OF ME, I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO SUFFER BECAUSE HE WONT GET HELP. I COULD UNDERSTAND IF I WAS A BAD MOM, A DRUNK, DRUGGIE, WAS NEVER HOME, ETC. BUT I WAS NONE OF THOSE THINGS I TRIED TO DO THE BEST FOR ALL MY KIDS THEY ARE MY LIFE. AND TO HAVE ONE OF MY KIDS TURN ON ME AND DO ME THIS WAY JUST KILLS ME. EVEN AFTER ALL HES DONE TO ME I STILL LOVE HIM AND WORRY ABOUT HIM, BUT I WONT LET HIM BACK IN THIS HOUSE TO HURT ME OR ANYONE. ON TOP OF ALL THIS I HAD A DEATH IN MY FAMILY OVER THE WEEKEND TO DEAL WITH ALSO, SO THESE PAST FEW DAYS FOR ME HAVE BEEN REALLY BAD AND I AM A MESS. THANKS FOR LETTING ME VENT.
HUGGS,
BETTY
1|1|I for one am THRILLED you got a restraining order!!! Watch your back and we'll be praying for you !|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|15:57:30|01/20/2009|
"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 2|1|Betty....|sunriver|lithiasalt@cheerful.com|15:58:04|01/20/2009|
I know that it must have been hard to call the cops on your son and to get a restraining order, but it was the right thing to do. Sometimes all we can do is tough love and wait it out. Hopefully he will get some help and get on the right track.
In the meantime, my prayers are with you. Hang in there. Vanessa 3|1|Betty~*~|RebekkaVA|queen_vulture@msn.com|16:04:37|01/20/2009|
I am so sorry that you are going through so much and in pain girlie. You did the right thing, you can't allow him to abuse you or your other children. I know that it hurts cause he's your son, but you have to protect your other children and yourself. My 16 year old made our family miserable, he did so well, then all the sudden, he just started getting mouthy and vicious, I struggled with the decision, but I went ahead and sent him to his bio father. I do miss him, but I don't miss the verbal abuse and all the crap he pulled. He's now finding it out, how good life was for him with Mama, and now wishes he would've been good. Hopefully your son will learn from this and please stick to your guns and don't let him back in. Hugs, Rebekka
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4|2|my only daughter was a terrible teen.....she would get up in your face...|couponsnsamples|cpsnsamples@aol.com|16:23:57|01/20/2009|
tried to hit..ect.......one day..i had taken all i could......i called her dad...(a cop) said ive done this alone for yrs......its your turn now.....COME GET HER ..NOW.!!........i figured she would stay the wkend and come right back..but sunday came..her dad called to say..she says shes moving in over here....of course i was still angry...because she seemed to be angry with her real dad..and tried to take it out on me..they lived beyond their means...tried to live the big life and she THOUGHT that was grand........so when he called i said..thats fine with me..........and i hung up..called her about 3 days later ..we talked a bit..she still thought she wanted to stay there......so within the week......i had all her stuff moved over there........then reality hit....she had to baby sit her step brother....do laundry..clean house.....and listen at good ole dad.......lol...right now.....she is 28 yrs old and we are the best of friends.....and she is being paid back....many times over..for the way she acted.....her kids...are giving it back..and mom is sitting back watching..saying i told u so..........
my point is...one day....he will wake up..and see life for what it is..and he will wish he had acted better........but just because one day he will wake up....doesnt mean it has to be in your house......if u know what i mean......just because..we are mom..and the kids are our responsiblity....doesnt me we were put on this earth to take their crap........
seems to me..he is a danger to himself....its kinda hard to believe a person could get to the point that your son is too.....without something being a contributing factor.....could it be he is taking some kind of drug.....that is causing him to be in such a RAGE....?
5|1|you have the right to be safe in your own home|ppe1952|MATWELL3@ROCHESTER.RR.COM|16:27:51|01/20/2009|
i had wonderboy arrested at one time a few years ago because he pulled a knife on me. you do what you have to do to remain safe and sane..
remeber this---no man, woman job or child is worth your sanity..
Remember your manners: when god answers your prayers----- say thank you.
6|1|Betty i pray for you and your family (m)|lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|17:25:04|01/20/2009|
i hope that you can find peace in your heart that you have done the right thing to keep your family safe
and don't be hestitant to call the police if he does happen to show up at your home
i wouldn't even open the door to him as you never know what he might have in his pocket and such
so please play it safe
praying for the best for you all
(((HHUGGGSSSS)))
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THANKS!! 7|1|Betty you are in my prayers and I am so so sorry you are going thru this. I will also pray for your son that he gets the help he needs. |nancygal|brennansnanna@hotmail.com|22:50:13|01/20/2009|
nancygal 8|2|WILL IT EVER STOP?|INTRIGEDBYU2|intrigedbyu21967@yahoo.com |23:36:16|01/20/2009|
I GET A PHONE CALL FROM MY OLDEST SON THREATENING ME HE WANTS HIS PS2, I TOLD HIM HE DONT HAVE ONE HERE HE SOLD HIS AWHILE BACK. HE SAID GIVE ME THE PS2 YOU KNOW ITS MINE, I SAID ITS NOT YOURS THE ONE DOWNSTAIRS IS YOUR LIL BROTHERS. HE KEPT INSISTING HE BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE AND IT WAS HIS. I TOLD HIM FIRST OFF YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO BUY ONE AND THE MONEY YOU DID HAVE FOR CHRISTMAS YOU SPENT ON CLOTHES, A TATTOO, CIGS, AND OTHER CRAP YOU NEVER BOUGHT A PS2. YOU ARE NOT TAKING ONE THAT DONT BELONG TO YOU. IF IT WAS HIS I WOULD GIVE IT TO HIM I AM NOT GONNA KEEP SOMETHING THAT ISNT MINE I AM NOT THAT WAY. HE SAID GIVE ME THE PS2 AND I WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE, TOLD HIM HE WAS GONNA STOP CALLING ME AND THREATENING ME. HE SAID IF YOU DONT GIVE IT TO ME I WILL CALL SOCIAL SERVICES AND LIE ON YOU AND HAVE YOUR OTHER KIDS TAKING AWAY. I TOLD HIM I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG AND I WAS CALLING THE COPS I AM DONE WITH HIS THREATS AND HUNG UP. NEXT THING I KNOW SOCIAL SERVICES SHOWS UP AT MY DAUGHTERS SCHOOL AND MY YOUNGEST SONS TO TALK TO THEM. MY OLDEST SON CALLED THEM AND LIED SAYING WE ABUSE THEM AND ALL THIS OTHER CRAP, I WAS SO UPSET. THEN THEY COME TO MY HOUSE TO TALK TO US. I TOLD THEM EVERYTHING ABOUT MY SON AND ALL HES PUT US THROUGH , HOW HE NEEDS HELP ETC. THEY KNEW BY TALKING TO MY OTHER KIDS AND US WE WERE GOOD PARENTS AND MY OLDER SON WAS LYING SO THEY ARE CLOSING THE CASE. IT UPSETS ME SO BAD THAT HE WOULD DO THIS TO US AND EMBARRASS AND HURT US LIKE THIS. WE HAVE NEVER EVER DID ANYTHING TO DESERVE THIS. TO ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT DRUGS I HAVE NO IDEA IF HE DOES DRUGS, I SOMETIMES WONDER WITH THE WAY HE ACTS. I KNOW HE HAS BEEN DIAGONOISED(SORRY CANT SPELL) AS BEING BIPOLAR MANIC DEPRESSIVE. WE HAVE HAD HIM TO DRS, HES BEEN IN COUNSELING, HES BEEN IN A PSYCH WARD 2 TIMES, TRIED COMITING SUICIDE TWICE. EVERYTIME WE PUT HIM IN FOR HELP THEY SEND HIM BACK OUT CAUSE HE BLOWS SMOKE UP THEIR BUT TELLIN THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND GETS OUT. WE HAVE HAD HIM ON MEDS HE WONT TAKE HIS MEDS HE FLUSHES THEM DOWN THE TOILET OR THROWS THEM AWAY OR TRYS TO OD ON THEM. I HAD TO TAKE MEDS AWAY AND LOCK THEM UP AND GIVE THEM TO HIM, HE WOULD EITHER REFUSE TO TAKE THEM OR TAKE THEM THEN MAKE HIMSELF THROW THEM UP. I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP HIM BUT HE WONT HELP HIMSELF.I HAVE LOVED HIM, BEEN THERE FOR HIM AND DONE EVERYTHING I COULD TO BE A GOOD MOM TO HIM I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS LIKE THIS. EXCEPT HE IS SICK AND WONT DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO MAKE HIMSELF BETTER. I AM SO TORE UP OVER ALL THIS , I HAVE BEEN GETTING SICK ALL NIGHT MY NERVES ARE SHOT. ALL I CAN DO IS CRY MY EYES OUT :( I JUST WANT FOR HIM TO GET HELP. I ASKED IF HE CAN BE FORCED TO GET HELP AND THEY SAID BECAUSE HE IS OVER 18 THEY CANT FORCE HIM HE WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT HIMSELF. I THINK ITS WRONG THEY SHOULD MAKE HIM GET HELP HE IS A DANGER TO HIMSELF AS WELL AS OTHERS. I DONT WANT ANYTHING HAPPENING TO HIM OR ANYONE ELSE. HE IS MY SON AND I LOVE HIM AND JUST WANT HIM TO GET WELL. THANKS FOR BEING HERE FOR ME I REALLY NEED FRIENDS RIGHT NOW.
HUGGS,
BETTY
9|3|OHHH NOOO Betty i am soo glad your children did what was right and told you were good people |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|00:15:11|01/21/2009|
soo sorry your son is causing soo much trouble
just please stay safe
BIPOLAR people can be scary
my best friend was married to a bipolar guy
he beat her
beat her head over the toilet till she bled
pulled her hair out of her head and tried to stab her with scissors till her son saw that and she was able to get away and call the police
sooo please stay safe
if you have to change your phone number as you should be able to tell the phone co you are getting harrasing phone calls and such
HUGGGSSS to you BEtty!!
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THANKS!! 10|1|Betty, I'm so sorry for everything you are going thru. Stay strong friend.|Mackiesmudder|Mackiesmudder@aol.com|02:06:37|01/21/2009|
Cathie 11|2|Betty, I too want to....|shelly|shellysue49@gmail.com|07:16:21|01/21/2009|
..send my thoughts and prayers out to you and your younger children. I am so sorry to hear all that your family is going thru. I think that you did the right thing!!!!! I know it is tearing you up but listen to me: you have other children that you MUST keep in mind. This has been a very bad environment for them (and of course for you!), and you needed to do something to change all that around.
I know it wont be easy.....but hang in there. keep making those calls to the police, they can document everything in case something else happens then there will be a record that points directly back to your son. Dont let him have the upper hand; believe me...he probably never thought you had the strength or the nerve to stand up to him, but you DID and you need to hold that line!!!!
Stay strong, my friend....we are all praying for your family and for the peace you all deserve.
Shelly 12|1|Try contacting the NAMI (m)|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|08:23:49|01/21/2009|
It's the National Alliance for Mental Illness
Since your son is of legal age yet refuses to seek help, take his medications & is a threat to himself & to others, & since noone in your area seems to know how to help you help him, the NAMI should be able to help you. PLEASE contact them.
My prayers are w/you & your family to stay safe, strong & determined to get your son the help he so desperately needs. Don't give up & don't give in!
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13|1|when you have him arrested (and you will probably have to) he can be committed involuntarily|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|10:03:21|01/21/2009|
for 72 hours to get his meds established. 14|2|THEY ARE TELLING ME BECAUSE OF HIS AGE I CANT...|INTRIGEDBYU2|intrigedbyu21967@yahoo.com |10:46:12|01/21/2009|
BECAUSE HE IS GOING ON 19 HE HAS TO ADMIT HIMSELF THAT I CANT ADMIT HIM. I THINK THATS A BUNCH OF CRAP AND THE STATE NEEDS TO RECONSIDER THIS AND SEE IN THIS SITUATION HE IS NOT IN THE RIGHT STATE OF MIND AND CANT MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. THAT FOR HIS OWN SAKE AS WELL AS OTHERS WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADMIT HIM AND FOR MORE THEN 72 HOURS. HE HAS BEEN IN TWICE FOR THE 72 HOURS AND IT DIDNT HELP HIM AT ALL. HE NEEDS TO GO TO A FACILITY FOR 30 DAYS OR MORE WHERE THEY CAN WORK WITH HIM MORE ONE ON ONE AND GET THE MEDS IN HIS SYSTEM FOR AWHILE WHERE HE CAN SEE THEY ARE HELPING HIM. HE IS SUICIDAL THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND THAT BY FORCING HIM TO GO THEY WILL SAVE HIS LIFE. BY NOT DOING ANYTHING HE IS JUST GONNA GET WORSE AND HURT HIMSELF OR SOMEONE ELSE AND THIS UPSETS ME TERRIBLY. HE HAS NO JOB, NO MONEY, NO CAR, NO NOTHING,AND HIS FRIENDS DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS HIS PROBLEM IS THEY THINK IT WILL JUST GO AWAY OR THEY CAN PACIFY HIM HERE AND THERE BY HANGING OUT WITH HIM DOING THINGS. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THEY CANT BE WITH HIM 24/7 AND WHEN HE HAS TIME ALONE TO THINK THATS WHEN HE GETS DEPRESSED AND CUTS HIMSELF OR WANTS TO KILL HIMSELF. AND THEY HAVENT EXPIERENCED WHAT WE HAVE CAUSE THEY DONT LIVE WITH HIM AND THEY ARENT AROUND HIM ALL THE TIME SO THEY DONT THINK HE HAS A PROBLEM. IT KILLS ME CAUSE I LOVE HIM AND WANT TO HELP HIM, I DONT WANT HIM TO HURT HIMSELF. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH HIM BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE TO US. SOCIAL SERVICES SAID HE IS NEVER ALLOWED BACK HERE AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CONTACT WITH HIM OR THEY WILL TAKE MY OTHER TWO KIDS AWAY. IT KILLS ME CAUSE I LOVE HIM AND MISS HIM. I CANT SLEEP OR EAT. I WORRY IS HE ON THE STREETS? IS HE HUNGRY? IS HE COLD? IS HE HURT? IS HE OK? I AM GOING CRAZY OVER ALL THIS. AS A MOTHER MY HEART IS RIPPED APART, I AM HURTING SO BAD :(
HUGGS,
BETTY
15|3|Not to be a downer but if he attempts to hurt himself|Kristy|mi3zons1@yahoo.com|10:51:28|01/21/2009|
It might be best. That's what it finally took for my sister to get hospitalized. She too had the same diagnosis as your son and did all kinds of horrific things. When she finally cut her arms was when my mom could call 911 and have her carted off. She was in the pysche ward for four or five days that time.
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17|3|the cops are lying you can have him involuntarily committed I have done this|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|15:17:11|01/21/2009|
to my ex which is partially why he is my ex 16|1|Isn't his contacting you by phone a violation of the restraining order?|sheliar|sandk95@embarqmail.com|11:06:53|01/21/2009|
I didn't think people were supposed to make contact of any kind--if so, you could have him arrested for violating the order.
Shelia
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18|2|have you thought about Baker Act (m)|doycosmo|eddie2kevin@tampabay.rr.com|15:19:18|01/21/2009|
I could be off base and know nothing really about Baker Acting someone but I know that it is a way to have someone who needs help forced into some sort of treatment, based on his history I am sure you could convince whoever needs convincing to allow him to be Baker Acted to agree to it. And ofcourse, it goes without saying I am so sorry that you have to go through this, but as long as your son has you there in his corner (which he does even though he does not see it) there is always some hope.
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19|1|Very sorry to hear about what you have been going through, Betty : ( I agree, your son does need some kind of support services...|Shirley5150|Shirley5150@peoplepc.com|16:11:51|01/21/2009|
...like with a NAMI-based organization. If he can get some type of "Mentor" so to speak who has been through similiar situations with bipolar disorder, maybe he'll be more open to getting some help.
Someone close to me in the past is bipolar. He's a very bright/intelligent person...very gifted with words (writing-poetry), drawing, anything creative, quick learner, and a people person usually (he's a Licensed Barber by trade). But when he refuses to take his medication, it's like night and day. He gets defensive, and thinks that anyone around him is "talking about or against him", almost as if he can read their minds, and whatever they're thinking is negative towards him. What made things bad was when one of his relatives talked him out of taking his medication since it's "bad" for the body/soul according to him; and unfortunately, he listens because this person happens to be one of his older bros. that he looks up to with everything. : ( Unfortunately, I had to cut off ties with this guy about 5 yrs. ago, because it was too draining even as a friend to see him go through such changes (on/off meds. and my opinions/advice not meaning much to him), especially knowing how good of a person this guy can really be when he strives and does his best.
Betty, you can only do so much for your son. Don't ever carry any guilt towards what he's going through and blaming it on yourself. It really sounds like he needs medication/therapy (guidance) at this point...and if only someone can talk to him to be more open into accepting these things. You're in my thoughts - prayers!!!!!!!! 20|1|Betty i am so sorry to hear this about your son|WillaD|wila111@bellsouth.net|16:21:49|01/21/2009|
i hope your son can get the help he needs soon
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22|2|GOT A PHONE CALL THIS MORNING FROM ....|INTRIGEDBYU2|intrigedbyu21967@yahoo.com |09:08:27|01/22/2009|
MY OLDEST SON, DIDNT RECOGNIZE THE NUMBER THATS WHY I ANSWERED IT, JUST GOT IT A FEW MINUTES AGO.I ANSWERED IT TO HIM SAYING JUST WANTED TO CALL AND LET YOU KNOW I TOOK PILLS AGAIN AND I AM IN THE HOSPITAL. (MY HEART SANK) I TOLD HIM HE NEEDS TO STOP DOING THIS TO HIMSELF. THEN HE ASKS ME HOW DID I LIKE MY LIL VISIT FROM SOCIAL SERVICES THE OTHER DAY? I TOLD HIM WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG AND I DONT KNOW WHAT HIS PROBLEM IS BUT IF HES IN THE HOSPITAL THEN HES WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE TO GET HELP. HE NEEDS TO STOP WITH THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS ANS HURTING PEOPLE.I TOLD HIM HE WASNT SUPPOSE TO BE CALLING HERE TILL HE GOT HELP AND HE SAID NO I CAN CALL JUST CANT GO BY THE HOUSE. HE SAID HE WAS PUTTING AN END TO THE B.S, I SAID WHAT B.S. THE ONLY ONE CAUSING IT IS YOU. I HAVE BEEN HERE TO HELP HIM NOT HURT HIM .I TOLD HIM I LOVED HIM BUT I CANT DEAL WITH THE CRAP ANYMORE AND WASNT PUTTING THE OTHER TWO THROUGH IT EITHER. OF COURSE HE CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID I DIDNT LOVE HIM AND I TOLD HIM PLEASE GET HELP AND YOU WILL SEE HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU AND GET YOURSELF STRAIGHT. I SAID YOU NOR US CAN LIVE LIKE THIS ANYMORE. I AM TELLING YOU THIS BECAUSE I LOVE YOU. THEN HE TOLD ME THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I HEAR FROM HIM AND HUNG UP. I CALLED THE NUMBER BACK TO SEE WHAT HOSPITAL HE WAS IN AND I GOT A RECORDING SAYING IT WAS MORGAN'S PHOTOGRAPHY. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY. FOR ALMOST THE PAST 2 YEARS I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS WITH MY SON, AT FIRST IT WAS JUST HERE AND THERE AND AS TIME WENT ON IT GOT WORSE ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS. I LOST MY HOUSE, I LOST MY JOB AND MY HUSBAND AND I WOUND UP SPLITTING UP OVER ALL THIS JUST IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. I WOUND IN COUNSELING TO TRY AND HELP ME DEAL WITH ALL OF THIS AND FOUND OUT THROUGH COUNSELING THAT MY HUSBAND WASNT MY PROBLEM IT WAS MY SON. THAT HERE I WAS LASHING OUT AND FIGHTING WITH MY HUSBAND ALL THIS TIME WHEN IT WASNT HIM CONTROLLING MY LIFE AND MAKING IT HE** IT WAS MY SON. MY SON WAS THE ONE CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN MY HOUSE AND MY MARRIAGE,HE WAS THE ONE ABUSING ME MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY AND PHYSICALLY. IT TOOK ME TO BE IN COUNSELING TO REALIZE THIS. I DIDNT WANT TO ADMIT IT OR DEAL WIH IT I GUESS CAUSE HE WAS MY SON AND IN MY EYES DID NO WRONG. SO I WOULD FIGHT WITH MY HUSBAND AND PUT ALL THE BLAME ON HIM AND MY HUSBAND DEALT WITH IT TILL HE COULDNT TAKE IT NO MORE. MY HUSBAND IS EVEN IN COUNSELING TRYING TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS, COUNSELING HAS MADE US REALIZE SO MUCH ABOUT OUR SON WE DIDNT REALIZE BEFORE. THE ONLY ONE THAT ISNT GETTING COUNSELING IS MY SON AND HE IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS IT BUT REFUSES TO GO BECAUSE HE THINKS ITS FOR WIERDOS AND HE IS TOO COOL FOR THAT. I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN TAKE :(
HUGGS,
BETTY
23|3|Praying that your son can get the help he needs (((HUGS)))~*~|RebekkaVA|queen_vulture@msn.com|15:03:28|01/22/2009|
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24|4|Praying that God will give you peace|angNC|memawang@embarqmail.com|18:53:50|01/22/2009|
I'm sorry you are having to go through all of this. Like I told someone the other day..
Parenting doesn't end at 18