2-09 at 09:51 AM (Eastern) by 76.199.236.219
First of all..I want to thank everyone that helped with this years Christmas for the kids 2008. We had alot of angels...and for the most part went smooth!
I rec'd several emails from receivers..that wanted to thank everyone involved. I'm sure some of you rec'd personal thank yous.. and that is great!!! I know that I sent
several boxes and didn't receive personal thank yous... BUT I know that it is appreciated. I rec'd emails wanting me to thank everyone. I think I did that in a general post
thanking everyone! SO please everyone that helped. I do appreciate it.. and the kids appreciate it too. We had one kid that was picked and their Angel did not send anything...
I couldn't do anything about that. ALL i can say is I'm truly sorry. When I first opened the applications...I screened them... just to make sure there was no bad traders, people
just trying to get extra help etc. I didn't NOT pick anyone because I didn't like them etc. I don't know anyone...so there goes that theory. AND there was one that I simply don't
remember getting a request for. I've gone back thru my emails and I cannot find it. For that child. I am sorry. For some reason, it slipped thru my emails, my mind. I don't know.
BUT I would never do that on purpose... AND I only wish now that I would have posted...if you signed up for help and you didn't get any questions back from me, then notify me.
Then perhaps I would have caught it. BUT I would never hurt anyone...especially a child at christmas! Believe it or not.. my mail does have it's problems. I've had people email me back
and say...either you want this or not??? and then I realized that..I was waiting on them to get back to me. But even with that...I deal with real life..I have real problems... my mind wanders..and sometimes
my trades, and this board is the last on my mind. Perhaps I'm just not as put together as most. But I try..and that's all I can do. Maybe it's me.. maybe it's my mail system. I don't know
SO for some reason, my mail has it's problems. BUT nothing that I can help. For those of you that didn't get a personal thank you! I'm thanking you. AND believe me. I know it's appreciated. I really try to make this work for everyone. AND it's a good thing. Right Now, I feel like sh*t because I left someone out???? As i explained to them.. I'm sorry. I dont' know what else to say. I'm not going into this anymore. What's done is done. I'm sorry.
Simple as that. If it makes you feel any better. I have just gone thru the worst last 2 weeks of my life. I haven't talked to my mom since December 26th. I was robbed of all of my jewelry over $8500
my wedding rings, my engagement ring, my anniversary ring, my proud army mom dog tag... things that meant so much to me...and it's not the $$$ it's the sentimental value....AND my insurance
doesn't cover it. So I'm sorry..If I don't want to go into any of this anymore. I've been proud doing the christmas thing for so many kids on here..and i"ve truly tried to help as many as we could.
It doesn't help me any? I have not kids to care for...i do it to organize it on the board to help others out.
It's not easy getting request after request and trying to get angels to help out more and more. I didn't get anything out of it. Many hours, I spent finding fabric..making blankets..getting them personalized..
shopping for the kids....etc... this year we really didn't have alot of financial help because so many people were having it hard. I actually sold and traded subway, blockbuster giftcards that I got from
the mycokerewards. So, i'm sorry for the one person that I've upset over this ..it wasn't intentional...and just the way it was put...you dont' understand how I could get other emails from you and not this one...is beyond me.
perhaps it's the way the subject is. I don't know.. .bUT i'm not looking into it anymore! Once more, and not again. I'm sorry! I'm sorry this put a bad taste in your mouth. Life has put a bad taste in my mouth!
AND not that it needs to be said..but I've went away and beyond...with everything that has happened to me since December 26th. I was still able to
do 2 RAOK of sending winetags to two good traders on the board needing help.
I personally replaced a swap box for someone that didn't get their box.
I personally sent a pkg for the child that her angel didn't send to for christmas
I personally sent a Birthday present for a 16 year old that was needing a little extra help for her birthday.
I'm sorry...but I'm really upset with this one. Maybe it's the way the email to me was worded. BUT I'm really offended by it!
1|1|Shelly I'm sorry that all you do|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|10:10:55|01/12/2009|
seems to be over shadowed by what happens to all of us email problems We all have them I am esp sorry to hear that you have been robbed of your items that are of so much emotional value to you I hope that you/they can find whoever did it and get your things returned Hang in there and keep the faith You know we all love ya and I personally send a big ole pat on the back for all that you do 3|2|Shelly....sounds to me....|shelly|shellysue49@gmail.com|10:27:45|01/12/2009|
..like you went way above and beyond on this project!!! I did not (and have not) actually participated in this project because I'm without a job and just feel I don't have anything extra to give. But I think everyone needs to realize that you took on something that you didn't HAVE to do....and cut you some slack.
Life happens, people.....everyone makes mistakes, forgets things, loses stuff, etc., and ESPECIALLY when one is dealing with other "issues" at the same time. Shelly, I'm so sorry that you were the victim of theft----and I understand about the value of sentimental, irreplacable (sp?) items~~that's a double whammy!~~
Shelly don't beat yourself up about the Christmas Angel project. You did your best and we all know what a kind and generous person you are. You posted an explanation and that should suffice...unfortunately, life is full of disappointments and you personally cannot control everything.
Take a deep breath and keep movin' on!
(((Hugs)))
Shelly
4|2|Shelly you are a great help to us all...|shelly0418|michelle0418@centurytel.net|10:27:52|01/12/2009|
Don't kick yourself in the butt for this. It was a mistake. That happens sometimes. You are
a very caring lady. I know you have helped out alot of us in the pass yrs with your angel
program. Me and my boys are very greatly to you and your angels.
Thank
Michelle
2|1|Ok, I wasnt gonna reply here (I emailed you Shelly)....but I find it really rude and unforgiving for someone to be harping on a simple case of a lost email or human error.....Shelly, I am so sorry.....for all you have been going through lately and you will be in my thoughts and prayers. Please let me know if I can do anything to help in any way. Big hugs to you....|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|10:17:40|01/12/2009|
"Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy." 5|1|Shelly,,I'm so sorry for what's happened in the last couple of weeks...it sounds like they've been awful..|kellysp6637|frugalk76@aol.com|10:37:05|01/12/2009|
Posted on Jan-12-09 at 10:37 AM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68
certainly not a way you want to spend the holidays.....
As for the Angel stuff.....Shelly you go WAY BEYOND for every single person on this board...I haven't seen you post a negative comment about anyone....you share you personal life and make me personally feel like a part of extended family...you are caring, giving and truly a sweet woman.....I simply can't fathom the selfishness of someone griping about a MISTAKE that you had no control over....The Christmas Angel isn't OWED to anyone.....it's a kind gesture put forth by many factors...the two biggest ones being the generosity of all those on this board and your time, energy and extreme generosity.....Shame on someone for making you feel like anything other than appreciated........
Shelly.....big hugs to you and I hope things get better for you....email me if you need ANYTHING.
6|1|i wasn't going to post anything about this shelly..............|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:46:18|01/12/2009|
edited to add what didn't show up the 1st time i posted :)
and i'm VERY sorry that you felt the need to post.
i had NO IDEA you had gotten robbed or anything like that, i was not trying to be "rude" or "unforgiving". on december 22nd you stated that you'd be hone on the 5th and you'd email me then. when you didn't, i waited a week and emailed you this morning to ask what happened.
i thought we had settled it via emails but i guess not.
once again i DO thank you for all you did with this program.
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7|2|Hey Shelly, we all appreciate everything that you have tried to do & are still doing|mo6g02|crazylady47952@yahoo.com|13:27:15|01/12/2009|
Please don't let one bad apple spoil the barrel. I know I wasn't able to help as much as some others but I did what I could because I've been there myself & my kids are having problems now. But you should be proud of yourself & everyone that helped should be proud of what they did, things are bad & whatever you managed to do was out of the goodness of your heart, God has a special place for angels you know!!!! It's a shame when one child is left out especially when it's done unintentionally like this one, but things do happen. It's a bigger shame when someone says they will be an angel for a child & then leaves them out. I know things are hard but if everyone donated even a dollar into a special angel account that you created, you would have plenty to work with come Christmas. Just something to think about. I'm sorry about being robbed, I never went through that, but lost all I had in house fire, & it hurts. Things are things but they are special & you want them. Hold your head up & be proud of what you did & know that you can't please everyone, but you did a great job in trying. Don't give up, some of us really care & appreciate what you do, I know you sure helped me when you chose me for swaps & sent such nice things for my grandkids, I thank you & appreciate you!!!
Donna
Donna
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8|1|I'm so sorry Shelly! :(|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|13:33:54|01/12/2009|
Please identify yourself in 1st email. If I haven't traded w/you before, I will require *legit* trade references & will gladly provide the same.
9|1|I'm sorry you got robbed, seems like a lot of that is going around?|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|15:26:54|01/12/2009|
it's hard times for everyone and we all worry about money.... I try to tell myself it only gets better after the bad thing, but then the bills come in
(bills followed us from Florida that I didn't know we had and are now in collection, my car tint needs to be replaced to pass inspection and be registered here, also I have a fan problem and the car screeches and smells like it's burning? Also electric bill is $375 (our apartment is NOT insulated?) LOL that is all I can do.
I let money worries make me frustrated and angry and probably the person who got left out is just hurt, maybe hates to take handouts and so hated to bring it up or was hoping against hope? I know I have to go back to that food pantry and I hate that but it's like home, when you gotta go there they gotta take you in lol
I hope things get better for all of us and if there is something I can send to the kid that was left out please jlmk...
Glenn 10|2|SHelly, first let me say, I am sorry you have had such a hard time recently. ALso, I know this one bad apple, has really upset you. But know that because of you. Not only did my daughter have a huge smile on her face, Christmas morning, but you also made me, an my husband, feel wonderful, that my daughter, did not know we were broke, and could barely afford, anythinh. it was priceless, and greatly appreciated. I will say it once more. Thanks from the bottom of our hearts. Donna|dlpavitt|dlpavitt@att.net|17:28:37|01/12/2009|
ALways looking for:
fancy feast UPC's(paying .05 each)
daisy sourcream .60/1, or .50/1
McDonald's Big mac Bogo's, or Free's
utz chips, any
viva papertowels, .75/1 after 10/11
cottonelle, 1.00/1 or .50/1
cottonelle wipes 1.00/1 or better
coolwhip, any
gatorade g2
coupons good on ANY coke product
sprite coupons
mystic pizza coupons
arm and hammer detergent off 1
NBPN rebates good in Ct
Pull up's coupons( home mailer's only
WINE TAG's bread, beef, poultry,cheese, deli items
Unused Stamps(small denomination's okay)
Well concealed cash
Free's(that I need)
BOGO's(that I need)
bigelow tea, any
pphf, existing funds please
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Try to get all trades out with in 12 hours of confirmation. If you do not have a board name, and feedback, I will mail my end, only after I receive your end. Happy trading. Thanks for looking, Donna
11|3|Honestly,you put a lot of work into doing this, and I don't think many would try to tackle this project.|HONEY11|HONEY1@AMERITECH.NET|18:03:17|01/12/2009|
You have a big heart for doing this for the children and if not for you organizing this every year many would go without presents. I am hoping that you will not let one person change your mind about doing this next year, I know many here appriciate what you and all your angels did, all of you are wonderful! I am sorry to hear you got robbed of items that were precious to you, I know that bad karma will fall upon whoever took those things fromm you, as they stole from a great, honest person.
** I have started this month working on projects, getting set for next years x-mas angels, I am hoping to be able to donate, and can pick at least 2 children.
"Once you replace negative thoughts with positive ones, you'll start having positive results." -Willie Nelson
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12|4|Hey Shelly-|jsevier|asevier@twlakes.net|18:25:19|01/12/2009|
I'm sorry you have had such a rough time. I wish I could have helped with the angels this year, but I just couldn't. Hallie and Thomas wanted to "help" some local children and I ended up spending way more than I planned on. I myself have had an absolutely rotten day at work and now I have whiny kids or else I would go on about how much I appreciate you organizing the swaps!! You are a treasure to the RS board and 99.9% of us adore and love you for all that you do!
Thanks!
Jessica
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14|2|Shelly,God bless you for all you do and have done!|angNC|memawang@embarqmail.com|20:34:52|01/12/2009|
you have been a sister to me and my family. Megan and I appreciate you. God will take care
of the person who robbed you. Be strong friend!
13|1|ok here is my opinion...(M)|kthy26|kthy26@yahoo.com|19:04:33|01/12/2009|
First off let me say Shelly I'm sorry you got robbed that must be terrible to have to go through that. Second, I know you worked very hard on the christmas angels and I know I am no where near enough organized to do something like that so I envy you being that organized and I thank you for putting so much of your time and effort into this program.
Now, here is the rest of my thoughts. People are human and we do make mistakes, who ever got upset because they were "overlooked" or whatever happened is sounding to me kind of greedy in my opinion. I'm not saying they didnt need the help but why didnt they ask about this before it was over or to late for a few of us to send there child(ren) gifts and I feel like if anyone was able to give there child(ren) just 1 gift that should be good enough even if it is from the dollar tree.
Now for the person that took a name and didnt send I just think that is ridiculous to do that to a child at christmas time. Now if you feel on hard times and were unable to send the gift then you should of told Shelly so she could let the rest of us know so we could help her send something off to that child.
I know there was a limit set on how much you could spend and I know for sure that I spent way more then that limit and I am not trying to brag on what I sent or didnt send I just think alot of us went out on a limb to take part in this and I really enjoyed it and in the end Shelly gets her feelings hurt. I know I spoke to Shelly many times through email to have her tell me she had to send more stuff and I always offered to help her send out more stuff and her response was no you've done enough.
God knows I dont have loads of money laying around but I did what I could to help and this is done for a good cause but like I said now the 1 person that organized all of this has got hurt feelings and i think that is just ridiculous.
Shelly, I am sorry you got your feelings hurt and please dont let this stop you from doing the angels again this year.
I usually dont make a post on something like this but I had to voice my opinion. So if you dont like what i posted that oh well dont hurt Shelly's feelings.
Kathy 15|1|i know the year that we were helped with the Angels box it was a great help |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|23:40:29|01/12/2009|
and it wouldn't have happened with someone that is full of love for kids and other people
sorry to hear about your other problems
and pray that you can get them straightened out
hope you will continue to do the Angels help
THANKS FOR EVERY THING YOU DO!!!
((HUGGSSS to you ))))
LYdia
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i appreciate all the trades made in the past.
THANKS!! 16|1|Hey Shelly, I'm so sorry for everything that has happened to you|Mackiesmudder|Mackiesmudder@aol.com|02:04:52|01/13/2009|
and I know how painful words can be, even in an email. You are an amazing person, like someone else said, there are very few who would undertake such a large task, you are truly an angel. Like Linda, I too am trying to gather things in advance to help with next year's Christmas. If there is anything I can do for you, please let me know.
cathie
17|1|Ohhhhhh Shelly, ((((SUPER BIIIIG HUUUGS))))|zombietoo|littlejadensmom@juno.com|04:58:49|01/13/2009|
((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 18|1|i am the "bad Apple" (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:03:57|01/13/2009|
for those of you who don't already know, i am the "bad Apple" and please let me say this, i DID ask before the season was over and i was told bt shelly herself, that she was out of town and she couldn't do anything until after she returned home on the 5th of january and that she woudl email me then. (this was posted on the general chat boards) when she didn't email me i simply emailed her, yesterday to ask what happened. she said she didn't know. we had a total of 3 emails between the two of us and i THOUGHT we had handled this issue, like adults in a private forum as to not upset any other people in the matter. now, after her posting this, i am suddenly "rude", "greedy", "unforgiving", and a "bad apple".
well let me ask all of you this, suppose you all had asked for help and THOUGHT you were going to get it only to find out 3 days before whatever even you were asking for help for that you were not even considered for the project? what about the other christmas child who didn't receive this year? how do you think her mother or father felt? it was heartbreaking! it hurt! and i'm sorry that my asking about it has caused such a tribulation on these boards but i will have you all know, that i ALSO donated to this cause this year. yes, even though i asked for help, i even sent paypal to shelly in order to help other families this year as well. i am NOT a mean person, i am NOT a greedy person, i am NOT a bad apple, i simply asked what happened and portrayed to shelly what had happened previously that would make me wonder why the email was never received. i was never rude to her, i didn't say anything nasty to her, and, mind you all, she NEVER said ANYTHING about her home being robbed and that's why she didn't contact me or could we deal with this another day or anything like that so how in the world was i supposed to know that i had "hit a chord" on a bad day? there was no way.
i am going to copy and paste the emails we sent to each other right now right here in this public forum and you all can make up your minds AFTER having the TRUTH!
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19|1|emails :)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:08:20|01/13/2009|
edited becasue i forgot an email
Subject: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 8:48:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: PU55ECAT
Reply To:
To: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
CC:
BCC:
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Internet Address Card Attached
hi shelly, on the 22nd of December we had a small discussion on the GC board about the christmas angle program and you stated you would be back home on the 5th and you'd check your list(s) and email(s) for my son's application. it's been a week since the 5th and since i hadn't heard from you i figured i'd write to ask. plmk thanks, jackie aka pussecat
here's the link to the gc post:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/general/31821.html
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Subject: Re: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 9:02:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
Reply To:
To: PU55ECAT@aol.com
CC:
BCC:
Sent on:
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just checked...I'm truly not sure what happened...I did a search under your email...and i have nothing in my emails? I really hate that your son was missed. I think next year..I'll do it a little bit different. Maybe once I get and accept kids..I'll notify the parents.. and that way..if parents aren't notified...they know to email me again. I'm just sure sorry!
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Subject: Re: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 9:21:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: PU55ECAT
Reply To:
To: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
ok, i really have to ask this, because this is why i don't understand how or why you didn't get my email:
there were no problems receiving my emails about the winetags you purchased from me, there were no problems receiving the emails about the financial distress we were having earlier in the year, and there were no problems receiving my emails about the pp i sent to the christmas angels fund. do you understand why i simply don't understand?
also, i will have you know that in 2007 i was an angel and sent a box to a christmas child and the family never sent a thank you email, no email that they received the package no nothing. not even am email to say they hated everything in the box and screw you. nothing shelly. so for the past 2 years this program did nothing but put a damper in my sights for the next year. kwim?
i must say, i AM happy that, even though it was only a little, i was able to help another family yet again this year, but i highly doubt i'll be able to be part of this program next year. strange how the lack of a simple thank you can remain in a person's mind for so long.
thanks, jackie
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Jackie..I truly don't know. I have emails sometimes that I never get.
I would never try to hurt anyone..and i have went way and beyond to help people on the board. I spent alot of my own time, my own money and helped with the kids on the boards. I am sorry...that this one was overlooked. I cannot help it! AND yes, I have had several people that I helped out that I did not receive a thank you..or post to the board. BUT we do have alot of great angels...and alot of people that help out. AND many that don't need a thank you..which I don't..but it would be nice. I for one..no that I did all that I could..and helped out as much as I could. I had many things going on my life then..and even more so now..that It's just not worth it for me to go into anymore! I get the sense that you dont' believe that I didn't get your email? well I'm sorry...If I didn't..I didn't..perhaps it was in the junk mail for some reason..Ijust don't know.. but then again..I had numerous emails coming in. I did the best I could!
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Subject: Re: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 9:40:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: PU55ECAT
Reply To:
To: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
shelly, i know that you did a lot, i know that you did more than anyone else on the boards for the christmas angel program. i know that and for that i DO thank you. it's just one of those things where it can't be explained. and it's also one of those things that hurts and makes people angry. it hurt me and made me angry and i guess i just wanted to know why my son was denied, as i THOUGHT, truly thought, that was what happened. in any case. there is a whole other year ahead of us and perhaps by the time the newest christmas angel program rolls around i'll be in the giving spirit, just like this past year. i didn't let the previous year hinder me from giving what i could. maybe next year, i'll be able to give more.
thanks for all you did and do. hugs,jackie
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and that was the end of the conver sation UNTIL she made this post and then i did write her one last time:
Subject: Re: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 10:52:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: PU55ECAT
Reply To:
To: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
i certainly hope you have done whatever it was you wanted done by your post. now i have people sending me nasty email messages as well as posts and for what? all i did was email because you didn't email me as you said you would.
i am truly sorry that you got robbed shelly, you didn't say a WORD about that in our emails.
i thought we had handled this like ADULTS in our emails. i guess i was wrong.
if there's anything else you'd like to say to me please do so via email OR posting on the boards. that way we can move forward. thank you, jackie
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20|2|I thought the 1/12 --9:21 email was rude. Your questioning of Shelly as to why the email for your son got lost when all the others to her did not sounded as if you thought|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|08:34:14|01/13/2009|
she purposely "lost " that email. Of course you don't understand why an email goes astray....none of us do. We all have said at one time or another "I didn't get anything from you...when did you send it?" Your concern for yourself in not being thanked in the past had nothing to do with this year. The whole thing was self centered.
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21|3|Suezz......|littlewolf|CCsuterlab@aol.com|08:46:21|01/13/2009|
Hello! Did you even read all of the emails that Jackie posted that were sent between Shelly & her?? Or did you just "pick out" the part where she questioned the receiving of the email?? To quote one of Jackie's emails:
Subject: Re: christmas angels program
Date: 1/12/2009 9:40:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: PU55ECAT
Reply To:
To: jpksms@sbcglobal.net
shelly, i know that you did a lot, i know that you did more than anyone else on the boards for the christmas angel program. i know that and for that i DO thank you. it's just one of those things where it can't be explained. and it's also one of those things that hurts and makes people angry. it hurt me and made me angry and i guess i just wanted to know why my son was denied, as i THOUGHT, truly thought, that was what happened. in any case. there is a whole other year ahead of us and perhaps by the time the newest christmas angel program rolls around i'll be in the giving spirit, just like this past year. i didn't let the previous year hinder me from giving what i could. maybe next year, i'll be able to give more.
thanks for all you did and do. hugs,jackie
As far as Jackie being self centered, she is far from that. If you had read her email, she THANKED Shelly for all of her hard work with the program. Ask yourself if you wouldn't have felt the same way IF you thought your child had been denied for some reason BUT no one bothered to answer your questions.
I will say this that I am truly appalled at the way Jackie is being made out to be the bad person here when all she wanted was a simple answer to her question. Wondering why this could not have been handled privately instead of being brought to the boards?? Wondering why others cannot try to put themselves in someone else's shoes BEFORE they attack them??????
Debbie<---------------- flame retardant suit is on so by all means start the attacks because I know I am next after not agreeing.....
20 . "I thought the 1/12 --9:21 email was rude. Your questioning of Shelly as to why the email for your son got lost when all the others to her did not sounded as if you thought"
Posted by suezz on Jan-13-09 at 08:34 AM (Eastern)
Posted on Jan-13-09 at 08:34 AM (Eastern) by 71.192.110.4
she purposely "lost " that email. Of course you don't understand why an email goes astray....none of us do. We all have said at one time or another "I didn't get anything from you...when did you send it?" Your concern for yourself in not being thanked in the past had nothing to do with this year. The whole thing was self centered.
23|4|Of course I read everything. Why would I not? I selected what I thought was rude since she was playing the "poor me" card. She was not identified . She preferred to announce her role in this. Was I supposed to pat her on the back for the positive things she said?? To me, those were cancelled out by the rude things I highlighted|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|08:50:47|01/13/2009|
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24|5|i didn't HAVE to come out suezz, ya'll already knew who it was from the december 22nd post.|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:54:45|01/13/2009|
and if i shoulnd't be patted on the back for the good deeds i've done why should shelly be patted ont he back for her's when she was RUDE to post this on the boards when it was settled via emails.
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26|6|Wow...this says it all. Self-Centered , Self absorbed .MUCH????|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|09:15:45|01/13/2009|
>Posted on Jan-13-09 at 08:54 AM (Eastern)
>by 24.129.66.182and if i shoulnd't be
>patted on the back for the
>good deeds i've done why should
>shelly be patted ont he back
>for her's when she was RUDE
>to post this on the boards
>when it was settled via emails.
>
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25|5|Hmmmmmm.........|littlewolf|CCsuterlab@aol.com|08:57:30|01/13/2009|
Let's see if I understand you correctly:
Jackie was playing the "poor me card" because she wanted a simple answer to a question. Yet, she was not the one to bring this onto the boards in the first place. If you go with your line of thinking, then was Shelly not playing the same type of card by coming here with the issue? I am sure there was a simple miscommunication somewhere along the way between the two of them BUT why bring it to the boards?? I have my thoughts on that BUT I will keep them to myself at this time......
As far as patting Jackie on the back, I highly doubt she expects that from anyone. However, she does not deserve the attacks that she is getting from others on here.
Debbie 22|3|it wasn't meant to sound like i though she did anything..........|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:46:55|01/13/2009|
it was to help her unserstand why i wouldn't have known or even thought the email didn't arrive. if she received over 10 others why not this one? see where i'm going here? she received emails before the 8th of october and received more after the 8th. so i was just asking, specifically, about this one. on AOL (which is the provider is use) you can go back and look up emails for YEARS, that's why i stted that she had received others so maybe she could see if she could "find" the one sent on the 8th. that's all it was meant to do. hth
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27|4|I think if you participate in these *good programs* and you expect or demand a thank you, then you are in them for the wrong reasons.|QponFreebieQueen|QponFreebieQueen@gmail.com|09:15:53|01/13/2009|
Not everyone is polite as they should be, but whether you get as self gratifying thank you out of it is not the point. I think this is a great program. I wanted to help also but I do alot in my local community and did not have extra. Christmas this year, though, I will help out a child. I will set a little aside each month, no biggie. I rarely reply to any of the topics in this forum, but had to with this one.
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28|5|I am upset |angNC|memawang@embarqmail.com|09:20:41|01/13/2009|
yes Shelly is my friend,a good friend, Please don't talk rude about someone who is just trying to help.
I can promise you charities can't help if someone doesn't get something etc
29|6|I was the adult..I didn't use any names..I just wanted to clarify|shellysmsmo|jpksms@sbcglobal.net|09:25:42|01/13/2009|
Posted on Jan-13-09 at 09:25 AM (Eastern) by 76.199.236.219
you know, i typed and typed with replies to this...AND I'm not going too...
It's done..it's over. Simple mistake. AS I apologized before. I brought the topic to the board..
I had never planned to name names.
This was done in an adult matter. I didn't come splatter names..this person, etc.
BUT the stress is not worth it.
30|7|but it doens't matter shelly, this was handled in emails and should NOT have come to the boards PERIOD!|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|09:33:11|01/13/2009|
you wanted a pat on the back for publicly saying you were sorry to me and you got, evidently, so what's the problem? all i'm doing now is defending myself from being called "RUDE" "GREEDY" "UNFORGIVING" and "A BAD APPLE". so sue me!
in fact, what SHOULD have happened is you should have NOT said anything about the conversations we had via emails here on the boards. i THOUGHT we had finished this discussion in the emails were wrote to one another but OBVISOULY we didn't.
YOU chose to bring this here and make FALSE accusations against yourself in a deem to get sympathy. well you go it. i hope you enjoy it.
now leave me to defend my good name and spirit. thank you! :)
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32|8|a discussion is a discussion..no names.. nevermind|shellysmsmo|jpksms@sbcglobal.net|09:41:09|01/13/2009|
Posted on Jan-13-09 at 09:41 AM (Eastern) by 76.199.236.219
done!
AND i must admit...I did NOT get your last email where you thanked me until after I posted to the board.
but I didn't post any names to the board.
NOW, I'm done!
33|9|lol |pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|09:48:03|01/13/2009|
you keep saying it's "done" yet you keep posting. lol
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31|1|It was posted in the op on the 21st that Shelly checked right there and then for the email and did not find it so why was the email sent?|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|09:40:50|01/13/2009|
>Last edited on Jan-12-09 at 10:09 AM
>(Eastern) by 76.199.236.2192-09 at 09:51 AM
>(Eastern) by 76.199.236.219
>First of all..I want to thank everyone
>that helped with this years Christmas
>for the kids 2008. We
>had alot of angels...and for the
>most part went smooth! I rec'd
>several emails from receivers..that wanted to
>thank everyone involved. I'm sure
>some of you rec'd personal thank
>yous.. and that is great!!!
>I know that I sent several
>boxes and didn't receive personal thank
>yous... BUT I know that it
>is appreciated. I rec'd emails
>wanting me to thank everyone.
>I think I did that in
>a general post thanking everyone!
>SO please everyone that helped.
>I do appreciate it.. and the
>kids appreciate it too. We
>had one kid that was picked
>and their Angel did not send
>anything... I couldn't do anything about
>that. ALL i can say
>is I'm truly sorry. When
>I first opened the applications...I screened
>them... just to make sure there
>was no bad traders, people just
>trying to get extra help etc.
> I didn't NOT pick anyone
>because I didn't like them etc.
> I don't know anyone...so there
>goes that theory. AND there
>was one that I simply don't
>remember getting a request for.
>I've gone back thru my emails
>and I cannot find it.
>For that child. I am
>sorry. For some reason, it
>slipped thru my emails, my mind.
>I don't know. BUT
>I would never do that on
>purpose... AND I only wish now
>that I would have posted...if you
>signed up for help and you
>didn't get any questions back from
>me, then notify me. Then perhaps
>I would have caught it.
>BUT I would never hurt anyone...especially
>a child at christmas! Believe
>it or not.. my mail does
>have it's problems. I've had
>people email me back and say...either
>you want this or not???
>and then I realized that..I was
>waiting on them to get back
>to me. But even with
>that...I deal with real life..I have
>real problems... my mind wanders..and sometimes
>my trades, and this board is
>the last on my mind.
>Perhaps I'm just not as put
>together as most. But I
>try..and that's all I can do.
> Maybe it's me.. maybe it's
>my mail system. I don't
>know SO for some reason, my
>mail has it's problems. BUT
>nothing that I can help. For
>those of you that didn't get
>a personal thank you! I'm
>thanking you. AND believe me.
> I know it's appreciated.
>I really try to make this
>work for everyone. AND it's
>a good thing. Right Now, I
>feel like sh*t because I left
>someone out???? As i explained
>to them.. I'm sorry. I
>dont' know what else to say.
> I'm not going into this
>anymore. What's done is done.
> I'm sorry. Simple as that.
> If it makes you feel
>any better. I have just
>gone thru the worst last 2
>weeks of my life. I
>haven't talked to my mom since
>December 26th. I was robbed
>of all of my jewelry over
>$8500 my wedding rings, my engagement
>ring, my anniversary ring, my proud
>army mom dog tag... things that
>meant so much to me...and it's
>not the $$$ it's the sentimental
>value....AND my insurance doesn't cover it.
> So I'm sorry..If I don't
>want to go into any of
>this anymore. I've been proud
>doing the christmas thing for so
>many kids on here..and i"ve truly
>tried to help as many as
>we could. It doesn't help me
>any? I have not kids
>to care for...i do it to
>organize it on the board to
>help others out. It's not easy
>getting request after request and trying
>to get angels to help out
>more and more. I didn't
>get anything out of it.
>Many hours, I spent finding fabric..making
>blankets..getting them personalized.. shopping for the
>kids....etc... this year we really didn't
>have alot of financial help because
>so many people were having it
>hard. I actually sold and
>traded subway, blockbuster giftcards that I
>got from the mycokerewards. So,
>i'm sorry for the one person
>that I've upset over this ..it
>wasn't intentional...and just the way it
>was put...you dont' understand how I
>could get other emails from you
>and not this one...is beyond me.
>perhaps it's the way the subject
>is. I don't know.. .bUT
>i'm not looking into it anymore!
> Once more, and not again.
> I'm sorry! I'm sorry
>this put a bad taste in
>your mouth. Life has put a
>bad taste in my mouth!
>AND not that it needs to be
>said..but I've went away and beyond...with
>everything that has happened to me
>since December 26th. I was
>still able to do 2 RAOK
>of sending winetags to two good
>traders on the board needing help.
>
>I personally replaced a swap box for
>someone that didn't get their box.
> I personally sent a
>pkg for the child that her
>angel didn't send to for christmas
>I personally sent a Birthday present
>for a 16 year old that
>was needing a little extra help
>for her birthday.
>I'm sorry...but I'm really upset with this
>one. Maybe it's the way
>the email to me was worded.
> BUT I'm really offended by
>it!
34|2|because she said she didn't have the list with her. :)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|09:48:36|01/13/2009|
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35|3|BUT she did check the emails and it wasn't there She explained it on the 21st (M)|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|10:18:52|01/13/2009|
I'm sorry that PJ didn't have a great Christmas but we all have emails that don't make it to the email box they were meant to I have traders on here who I trade with very often and i still find some of their emails in the spam file DH has a friend who for whatever reason we never get his just one day they stopped getting to us nothing changed like addy's they just are floating around out there somewhere it happens and isn't the fault of either the sender or the reciever 36|4|Let it go, Christmas is over & emails are lost|mo6g02|crazylady47952@yahoo.com|10:33:25|01/13/2009|
I also donated & didn't do it for a thank you, I did it because someone needed help & I have kids that are in bad shape, all laid off. We managed to get Christams for all, but it was tough, I thank Jodie for selling me so many nice items to use a gifts, but the fact of the matter is, the email was lost, give it up. I'm always being told that someone hasn't received my emails, my server stinks, so let lying dogs lie, give it up & give Shelly a break, she's had a rough few months. I hope this doesn't keep you, Shelly, from doing a good thing next year & I hope if you do that ,I'm still around & things will be better so I can help more. thank you again for your help with my grandson's & granddaughter on the swaps. I for one appreciate everyone on this board who cares as I know sometimes I could sure use a shoulder, I'm sure Jodies is very wet by now, & wishes I would quit leaning on her LOL!!!! Thank you Shelly.
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48|5|I agree Donna.......|maraj|maraj64@hotmail.com|11:30:37|01/13/2009|
For me, personally, this would've been behind me w/the OP's of Dec. 21st & 22nd. ;)
Please identify yourself in 1st email. If I haven't traded w/you before, I will require *legit* trade references & will gladly provide the same.
37|4|I can't beleive that you think Shelly delibertly left your child out ???|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|10:40:34|01/13/2009|
Emails get lost...I know especially with aol when I am deleting emails and 1 happens to come as I am deleting, it gets deleted as well....lost many coupon trades because people "assumed" that I was ignoring them....when in fact even though we have traded numerous times, that particular email didn't make it.... I am sure it was upsetting to have been planning on a package and it not show up...but be thankful you had your child to hug and kiss Christmas morning,he obviously had a roof over his head and food to eat, lots of parents/children didn't have that option.
JMHO !!!
Deedra
39|5|wait a second deedra, i NEVER, and repeat NEVER said that at ANY point!|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:46:41|01/13/2009|
i never said anything of the sort. please re-read everything i posted, i never said that..... i never thought that... and i don't know WHERE that came from because it did NOT come from me. (yes, i noticed that shelly said something about it in her post but i promise you, i posted every single email sent between the 2 of us and i also posted the link to the previous gc post and i never said anything like that.) when i read that part i just knew people were going to think i said that. but it wasn't me.
i would NEVER think that. so please, take that out on someone else. thanks, jackie
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41|6|This line from your post above (may be the wording) does pretty much insinuate that: "if she received over 10 others why not this one? see where i'm going here? she received emails before the 8th of october and received more after the 8th" I think it's the "see where I'm going here?" that makes one think you thought it was deliberate.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|10:54:03|01/13/2009|
"Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy." 42|7|no, joy that was to insinuate that perhaps she missed the email (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:56:34|01/13/2009|
as i posted earlier it was to let her know that i knew she had received emails from the same address before AND after the 8th thus to help her see if she could find it. (such as in a spam folder). hth :)
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40|5|ps..... as posted in the reply to tina, pj DID have a wonderful christmas, and yes, christmas is MUCH more than just gifts under the tree! :)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:49:03|01/13/2009|
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38|4|i truely know that tina (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:42:47|01/13/2009|
and after that was explained in the 2nd email i received from her i said it was unexplainable in my reply. no biggie, i understand it completely.
:)
ps........ and pj did have a great christmas, the holidays are not all about gifts under the tree. :)
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43|5|Jackie|teener|teenerzacsneenee@yahoo.com|11:10:25|01/13/2009|
Sorry if it seemed that I thought Christmas was all about the gifts I know it isn't and I have instilled that into my children as well I just thought that after it was explained by Shelly that there was no email recieved and it still was important enough to you to email her about it that Christmas was not what you were hoping Sometimes things happen for reason we never understand and in the end there is something to come away from it with Last year my son Nick was on the list one of the last to be taken if he hadn't I would have understood Christmas would still have been what our family makes it and we would still have moved on and would have helped this year because we could Next year God willing we will be able to help again nothing needed in return and no beating ourselfs up if we can't help
Life can be nasty and cruel at times but getting up from what may knock us down and getting on with it is truely the best we can do for ourselves and our families
45|6|oh tina, i didn't mean that i thought you thought christmas was all about gifts (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|11:17:55|01/13/2009|
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44|5|Jackie... did you ever think that just maybe....|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|11:14:35|01/13/2009| I was asking you an HONEST question ??? I can't beleive that you think Shelly delibertly left your child out ???"
46|6|ok, and your honest answer is i NEVER said not thought that was the case.|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|11:20:16|01/13/2009| but no, i didn't think you were asking a question. i thought you were insinuating that i thought and or said that at some point. your post is as such: "I can't beleive that you think Shelly delibertly left your child out ???" that does not appear to be a question at all but an insinuation from the way i look at it and read it. hth ***** BOYCOTT COUPON CLIPPING SERVICES that don't want YOU trading *****
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49|8|words such as think, thought, appear to be...|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|11:45:30|01/13/2009| are EXACTLY what the problem "seems to be" "but an insinuation from the way i look at it and read it." Everybody "reads"/"sees" things differently... suppose you all had asked for help and THOUGHT you were going to get it only to find out 3 days before whatever even you were asking for help for that you were not even considered for the project? I "see" this as if you "thought" you weren't considered for the program ?
50|9|why not leave it be?|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|12:06:04|01/13/2009| because i wanted to know. that's why and i had and have the right to ask. just as she had and has the right to post here. it doesn't matter why we think something is wrong or right for that matter it's how it's read. and just as i stated before you insinuated by making a comment/statement. you didn't ask anything deedra, you assumed something. and you were/are wrong. putting a few question marks behind a comment/statement doesn't magically "make" it a question. you didn't ASK "did i really think", or "how could you really think", you said: "i can't believe that you think"........... that is NOT a question, that is a statement in ANY english text book. in any case, had someone else posted this about another person here, some of you would be jumping down their throats (just like some of you did to me earlier) for not posting all of the details and then also for posting something that was taken care of via email. there was no reason for shelly to post the things she posted about our conversation on the boards AT ALL. we had settled it via emails and they were NOT nasty ones. there were no accusations thrown at either person, not until this post, however. as for the poor child that was left out because the angel didn't send (for whatever reason, it really doesn't matter now) how about letting us know who it was so that perhaps some of us could send the child a card shower with stickers or something like that? how about holding an angel auction for that child? if we can come to the rescue of a child who's gifts were stolen i can't phathom a reason we can't come to the rescue of this child. regardless of whom thinks who is right or wrong what it comes down to is this............... we are in a GLOBAL recession, the USA is on it's way to being in a DEPRESSION, if we EVER needed a kind word or phrase such as THANK YOU, it's now! kind words go a long, long, LONG way! and in the end, it WILL be remembered. ***** BOYCOTT COUPON CLIPPING SERVICES that don't want YOU trading *****
51|10|because as usual, you have to have the last word : )|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|12:33:40|01/13/2009| JMO, which I am entitled to !!!
52|11|not true deedra, you are MORE than welcome to say anything else you'd like.|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|12:39:05|01/13/2009| what do you want to say? i'm listening :) ***** BOYCOTT COUPON CLIPPING SERVICES that don't want YOU trading *****
53|12|Hi Jackie !!|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|12:49:09|01/13/2009| Hope you have a SUPER, FABULOUS, WONDERFUL Day !
54|13|HEHEHEHE |lydzkydz|lydzmcss@yahoo.com|16:47:30|01/13/2009| thanks for the laff THANKS!!
55|1|I just want to say that my family and I appreciate you so much Shelly and all the Christmas Angels, all of you made our family holiday so much more brighter (((HUGS)))~*~|RebekkaVA|queen_vulture@msn.com|19:56:12|01/13/2009| ~*~REBEKKA~*~ You do a GREAT job every year and it's VERY easy to skip someone. I think anyone who puts their child's name on this list should think of it as a bonus NOT an absolute. We as parents are all responsible for our own children. I didn't read anyones post but yours and I'm sorry that you're very upset and going through a hard time. Listen....... we all have 365 days to buy a gift for our child or children and I know that times are hard for everyone. Maybe next year you can do exactly what you said and remind the parents if they don't hear back from you by ............. to please e:mail you again or better yet, maybe you can ask someone from their state to send the gift, that way it gets there earlier. This is a BIG endeavor for one person to take on by themselves. More people need to step up. I'll try to do more myself next year to help you out. If anyone is struggling where they can't buy one gift for their child, don't forget the Salvation Army next year. They allow you to pick two or three gifts for your child under 12 as long as you meet the requirements and they are not hard to meet. Hugs, Shelly, you are one of the most outstanding people/traders I know,you have helped many children over the years including my own.I know how hard it is to do the Christmas angel project, you spent alot of time and your own money to help those in need. I thank you for that, for all of us involved wether it was as an angel or as a recipient. Hugs friend and hope to be able to do a lot more next year. I truly hope you will continue this project next year -- you have no idea what a blessing you are :)
59|4|ditto that!|angNC|memawang@embarqmail.com|00:21:13|01/15/2009| working and barely getting by!!
maybe there are prior emails that would make me "see" it differently.
also IMO, why not leave it be after her 1st reply ?
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56|1|Shelly.........|CJDJ112366|Lintaos@optonline.net|21:51:03|01/13/2009|
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57|2|I just want to say that Shelly is a wonderful person. She would never leave a child out intentionally. I like others just think it was a error, not a intentional oversight.|DAVESBABYDOLL|sheila83@bright.net|08:41:54|01/14/2009|
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58|3|Shelly, I was able to help with paypal this year....|KellyJef|burke3536@yahoo.com|18:08:28|01/14/2009|