48 0|0|why are coupons trading for more than 10% of value? VENT|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:18:08|10/01/2008|
Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:18 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

and i'm not talking about free's nor winetags, but regular ss or non-ss co's.

not all of us can double and get items for free. why is it that a coupon for $1 off powerade should go for up to 25 cents or a propel 50 cents coupon go for up to 15 cents?

i don't understand it. it's just like people asking more than 10% for a form. it's ludicrous! simply ludicrous.

and the worst part about it is people are actually paying these inflated prices figuring that .25 for something they can get for free is worth it, but what about us who DON'T get it for free? those of us who still have to pay 50% - 75% of the regular purchase price?

i tell ya, i don't like it at all, it's not fair to those of use who can't double and that is JMHO.

thanks for the vent.


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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:18 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

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18|2|I am not really following this. Coupons trade for what the market will allow|suezz|clearys@comcast.net|13:53:07|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 01:53 PM (Eastern) by 76.118.194.241

Yes, there may be standards that have tacitly been set up, but nobody has signed any contract to follow them. Some people follow and others don't. Indeed you could have traded the $.75 Nabisco for four times what you..but you didn't and somebody else may have done so somewhere else. The only thing you can control is what you have to sell...and your reaction to those who look at trading/selling differently than you do

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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:20 AM (Eastern) by 71.166.88.225

Sorry you don't like it but if I can afford more for it and my store doubles or even triples it then it's worth more to me than you. There are ups and downs to every state or area... I know you get forms and alcohol receipts and in Md I can't do that...

"Women should not have children after 35. Thirty-five children are enough." - anonymous (Only 28 to GO!) 3|2|yeah but i wouldn't charge you over the average 10% rate just becasue you can't find the form. kwim?|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:35:06|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:35 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

and i also don't charge you more than 10% of face value for a coupon just because you can double it. that's insane. JMHO

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4|1|I will give you my opinion....|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|10:44:15|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:44 AM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

I don't have local stores that double either....in order to double .50 I have to drive 60 miles 1 way to a Kroger....my son loves sobe, I consider it a great deal when it goes on sale for 1.00, as it retails for 1.49....so lets say they clearanced it down to .75, heck, I would be GREEDY and clear the shelf....there are sobe coupons for .50, I will GLADLY pay .25 for those coupons...because combined with the sale & doubled, I only have .25 invested (cost of the coupon)....this is a no brainer for me.....now for the powerade...its on a price rollback at Walmart for .68, the 1.00 coupon gives overage of .32...lets see .32 profit- .25 (coupon cost) profit of .07 plus the product.....hmmmmm, again no brainer....powerade has been on sale for 1.00 @ Kroger can when you buy 6 you get a catalina checkout coupon for 4.00 off your next shopping order....so if I paid .25 for each coupon, (1.50 for 6 coupons) I made a profit of 2.50....again no brainer... the Cottonelle .50/1 coupon can easily trade for .25 to those that CAN double... Kroger has the 4 pack everyday for .99...so FREE after the coupon, so getting a 4 pack of toilet paper for the cost of the coupon + tax, is FANTASTIC...and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise......also FYI...you can live in the land of no doubles and make out like a bandit IF you match sales, coupons & promos...

JMHO
Deedra 5|2|but you can only make out like a bandit IF you can get the overage or catalinas.|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|10:58:17|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:58 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

for instance, walmart powerade............ my walmarts will NOT give overage so no profit there. also our powerade is .78 or .88 depending on which walmart you go to not .68.

kroger, we don't have any so no profit's there.

kmart doubles, will only double upto the price of the item so no profit there.

see where i'm going?

i'm not saying that people who do get to double should be gouged for their coupons OR forms, but neither should those who can't double. kwim?

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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:03 AM (Eastern) by 207.255.75.215

I see two types of traders, ones who are running a business and ones who are more community minded and wanting to help each other out.
Sure the hot coupons go for more and I have paid more, if the overall deal is worth it to me. I do factor in the cost of the coupons to see if it is worth it to me. I think most here aren't running a business and want to just trade and help each other.
I do feel like a moron when I get the same coupon from one person for .20 and the next day someone has it for .05. So I would just take your time and find the best deal for yourself.
Anyone can charge what they like, just up to you if you want to pay it or not. Sometimes the higher cost is worth it and it is an awful lot of work to organize thousands of coupons. I can't tell you how much I appreciate someone putting my envie together and charging me a modest fee, I know it is a lot of work. 7|1|so why/how do you determine that 10% is fair ??|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|11:11:00|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:11 AM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

?? 8|2|it is common knowlegde (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|11:21:42|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:21 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

since i have been trading forms and coupons these were the guidlines presented to me way back in 2000....

ss co = 5% - 10% of face value

non-ss co's - 10% of face value

free's - 50% of face value

winetags wiht NWPN - 30% of face value

crt only forms - 10% of face value

qualifier forms - 5% of face value

upc code forms - 10% of face value

expireds nomore than 2% of face value and usually free just pay postage

this is the table i was given way back in 2000 when i started trading so this is still what i go by.

i know gasoline prices have risen, and i know that times are tough for everyone BUT i don't feel it is fair to charge people who can not double and get the item for free more than 10% of face value for a coupon. i just don't think it's fair.

i mean, take a 50/1 propel co for example......... i can get these are walmart for $1 each so for me paying 10% of face value IS a value for me as i end up saving .45 cents. but paying .10 cents each is NOT a value for me. it's not worth waiting for the coupons to pay the extra .05 cents. however, if i lived in ga and could double at kroger for 1.00 .10 cents is a STEAL. but because i can not double i don't feel i should have to pay the same rate as a person who can. and that's just the way i feel aobut it. nothing is going to change my mind on the matter. i just don't feel it is fair.

as for forms, why shoudl anyone pay more on these bpoards for a form than they would have to pay to a form service? form services charge 10% not 15% or 20%.............. 10% and that's just the way they do it. so it makes no sense to pay a trader more than that when we can "shop around" and get a better deal. same with coupons. i WON'T pay double coupon prices because i can't double. i just keep shopping.

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13|2|and why did you determine that more than 10% was fair?|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|11:47:02|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:47 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

quid - pro - quo

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9|1|Well Winetags are always gouged, so why wouldnt I pay $0.35 to get powerade for free? (My walmart doesnt give overage either) |kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|11:22:27|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:22 AM (Eastern) by 70.15.192.31


My husband drinks it like water in the summer and paying $0.35 compared to $1 or more sounds good to me. I mean I have seen people charge 50% face for winetags, If it is a hot coupon and people are willing to pay it.. when I used to "sell" coupons I always charged more for "HOT" coupons, it has always been this way, just hf's are getting higher like everything else.


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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:30 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

i charge the standard 30% unless it's expired then i ask 10 - 20% but that's just me. *SHRUG*

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12|3|I wouldnt pay it either, some people just ask as much as they can, and for us that have no way to get winetags, I think the 30% for winetags is just as fair as 30% for hot coupons, jmo|kandywolf|kandywolf@gmail.com|11:46:35|10/01/2008|

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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:48 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

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25|4|just as fair as 30% for hot coupons, jmo |ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|17:40:41|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 05:40 PM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 11:45 AM (Eastern) by 24.239.243.152

Im in PA.....no winetags here. I have a Walmart close to me, but they are the Coupon police...no overages. They recently raised Powerade from .60 to .88. I have 2 Kmarts approx 25 min from here. Only shop there when they do the double coupon deals. I also have a small locally owned groc store close by where I do the majority of my groc shopping.. They accept manuf coupons, but dont double. Thats the only choices I have when it comes to grocery shopping unless I want to travel. While, I would love to have some of the great coupons out there....I simply have to pass if they are too high. Cindy 15|1|"standard"......|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|13:23:37|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 01:23 PM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

so before I set a H/F should I ask each trader if they can double ???

Whats the difference between a free coupon....free is free, whether it comes from a SS or not.
Also shouldn't a person charge less if it is a non ss or wine tag that they went to the store and grabbed a whole pad of coupons/forms so they could sell or if they went around pulling peelies off boxes ? That person certainly didn't work as hard as I did in sorting and cutting the coupons, yet you feel those coupons are worth more, why? Because thats "standard"....sorry it doesn't always work that way in the real world....you have to adapt to the changing lifestyles...it may not be worth it to you to save a nickle or dime, but I save anyway I can.


something to think about: I have the Breeze $30.00 coupons, yet I charge .50, not the "standard" 5-10%.....so I guess I should raise that price? heck if you have a CVS, next week you can get 10.00 in ECB, so I want a cut of that to..... sometimes you have to be realistic, "standard" was in 2000, not 2008

JMHO
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Posted on Oct-01-08 at 01:43 PM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

>Posted on Oct-01-08 at 01:23 PM (Eastern)
>by 98.19.9.126so before I set a
>H/F should I ask each trader
>if they can double ???
>Whats the difference between a free coupon....free
>is free, whether it comes from
>a SS or not. Also shouldn't
>a person charge less if it
>is a non ss or wine
>tag that they went to the
>store and grabbed a whole pad
>of coupons/forms so they could sell
>or if they went around pulling
>peelies off boxes ? That person
>certainly didn't work as hard as
>I did in sorting and cutting
>the coupons, yet you feel those
>coupons are worth more, why? Because
>thats "standard"....sorry it doesn't always work
>that way in the real world....you
>have to adapt to the changing
>lifestyles...it may not be worth it
>to you to save a nickle
>or dime, but I save anyway
>I can.
> something to think about: I
>have the Breeze $30.00 coupons, yet
>I charge .50, not the "standard"
>5-10%.....so I guess I should raise
>that price? heck if you have
>a CVS, next week you can
>get 10.00 in ECB, so I
>want a cut of that to.....
>sometimes you have to be realistic,
>"standard" was in 2000, not 2008
>
>JMHO Deedra

i don't know who goes around tearing off whole pads of non-ss co's and peeling peelies off boxes, but if that's what they want to do then so be it. it was always my understanding that non-ss co's are coupons that not everyone gets thus their value is higher than regular ss coupons.

as for free's in the newspaper, sure they could go for 50% of value. i don't remember ever writing that they shouldn't. perhaps i need to re-read my post, maybe i miss typed something.

as for the breeze coupons........... if you only charge 50 cents then that's what you charge but why shoudl that coupon be any different from the powerade coupons that you want "at least 25% of face value" for? you said there is a powerade catalina deal, now there is a breeze monitor deal, since you want a cut of the powerade deal why wouldn't you want a cut of the breeze deal too?

as for adapting to chainging lifestyles............ i think what you mean is adapting to the cost of living increases.............. if food goes up then coupon trading values should too? not!

so the "standard" in 2008 is now 25% of face value for ss coupons? thus it should be say, 40% for non-ss coupons right? or 50% for wine tags right? dang, i sure do with i had realized that when i had the 75/1 any nabisco product coupon.......... i woudln't have ask just .07 cents each, i'd have asked for .28 cents each! woo hoo! i'd have been in the money for sure!


19|3|so your opinion has changed since a few days ago ???|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|14:24:04|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 02:24 PM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

you spent .25 each for the coupons? that's still more than 10% of face value and also high IMHO. check paypal..... your cost for the coupons and postage are on their way.

You went to great lengths to "out" me in my post a few days ago, so now are you saing they were worth 50% ???

20|4|excuse you! i can't BELIEVE you deedra!|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|15:30:08|10/01/2008|

Last edited on Oct-01-08 at 03:43 PM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

ya know what? i'm not going to do this deedra. you are not going to tick me off again today.

I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT DEEDRA, TIMES HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE BACK IN 2000 WHEN I START TRADING PEOPLE DID NOT CALL OUT RAOK'S AND BREAK THEIR HEARTS BY TELLING THEM HOW MUCH THEY LOST EVEN AFTER THEY REFUNDED THEIR "FEE'S".
24|5|Jackie, you need to put on your big girl panties and chill out !!!!|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|17:38:53|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 05:38 PM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

I don't give a darn what people did or didn't do in 2000, what I do care about is when a fellow trader, who I had just been kind enough to send a very "hot" RAOK to, felt the need to post under my post commenting on what price I was willing to trade for, that is just RUDE !!( I put that I was not willing to trade for less than 25% of face value and I listed my reasoning, not that I had to, but just so people wouldn't send offers of .05 or .10 and waste my time and theirs, because I knew I wouldn't trade them for that) I will never for the life of me understand why you felt the need to do that, do you not think other traders are smart enough to figure out what they are willing to pay for items they want? Just because you will not pay more than 10%, doesn't mean everyone feels that way.
I may have used bad judgement when I posted what the RAOK "cost/lost" me....My intentions were not PURPOSELY meant to hurt you,(I just wanted to show that I wasn't the greedy person you were making me out to be)just as I hope your post : "25% of face value for SS co's? that's high. JMHO" was PURPOSELY meant to hurt me....however it did hurt me, you made me feel bad about myself, as if I was not a fair trader....(If it was to make me feel like I am a greedy person, you accomplished that.) no at that point you hadn't said I was greedy, but you made me feel the part, so just as you hurt me FIRST, my post in return according to your post hurt your heart ....and unfortunately this all could have been avoided had you not voiced your opinion where it wasn't asked for, General Chat is for opinions/comments, not the coupon board..... and I will say it again, I think it is RUDE to post opinions that doesn't concern you on someone elses post.

I also hate to break the news to you, but you didn't refund my fees, because I NEVER would have sold them that cheap...you refunded what I stated I paid for them...also don't flatter yourself by stating they might have been for the powerade coupons...you very vocally informed anyone who was interested in reading EXACTLY what you were paypaling and what it was for:

"and by the way, you didn't actually LOSE anyting in the end. you said you paid .25 cents for each coupon and i sent you 2.50 in pphf to cover your COST for the items you sent. i didn't BUY the actual products from you just the coupons. i also returned your postage. oooooooops but i didn't send any money for your time nor your envie so what do i owe you now? another 50 cents maybe? .45 cents for the 30 seconds it took you to fill the envie and .05 for the actual envie itself? ooops let's not forget your trade slip, i'll tack on another .05 for that. see your email as pphf is on the way!"

I could go on and on, however your opinion isn't going to change and mine isn't either, its a no win situation.

Deedra

30|6|don't you EVER tell me to put on big girl panties again deedra..............|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|19:45:44|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 07:45 PM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

your mouth is going to get you into some serious trouble one day lady!

the "fee's" i was refering to were what you actually paid for the items as you stated in the previous posts on the 28th AND postage AND handling fees AND a trade slip fee.

no, yuou should have NEVER said what you did about the raok. i still can't beileve that you did it. you were wrong and you are still wrong for that no matter how you lok at it. if you were even TRYING to be a responsible trader you would have either returned my pphf's and or stated that you didn't mean it that way, YOU DIDN'T! i have never ever seen anyone belittle a trader in need (3 weeks prior) the way you did me on the 28th and i hope i NEVER see it again!

no, we don't agree on the coupon prices of trading. and we probably never will, but instead of you posting that you didn't like what i said, or emailing that you didn't like what i said you felt the need to out me about a raok and let me know the cost of it to you. there is no better way to bel;ittle a person don't ya think? i thank you deedra for showing me, and others your true colors. they are quite nice. ;)

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33|7|LOL, you can dish it out , but you can't take it can you ????|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|20:48:47|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 08:48 PM (Eastern) by 75.117.163.252

you are correct on one thing, my mouth has gotten me in some predictments from time to time and I am sure it will again....but I would say we are in the same boat there, becaue anyone that is as opinionated as yourself can't always be right, can they ???
and excussssse me, who are you to say I was wrong.... I said I MAY have used bad judgement....I didn't say I was wrong, and until you are appointed as God's right hand man, you are no more of an authority of that than I am.... the way it looks to me is you have 2 ways of seeing things, thats Jackies way and Jackies way.
I am not going to appologize because you felt I was belittling you, I didn't do that, I just stated some facts, you keep harping on it, sort of like you are looking for sympathy, oh no, look what the big,bad Deedra did to me...GROW UP.... and as far as true colors, you might want to go back, read what you have wrote and see whose true colors are showing, you aren't exactly a saint.


PS..... ya know what? I think you fibbed..."i'm not going to do this deedra. you are not going to tick me off again today."

I think I did : )

I'm ready to move on...let it rest ! 40|8|no deedra i didn't say ANYTING nasty to you in these posts (M)|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:54:26|10/02/2008|

Last edited on Oct-02-08 at 08:55 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

you had and still have no right to belittle me YET AGAIN by telling me to "put on my big girl panties". i am a 35 year old WOMAN not a CHILD nor a foul mouthed TEENAGER and i deserve to be treated as such. i didn't tell you to put on yours or to go screw yourself or anything nasty like that YOU got nasty with me and i don't appreciate it one bit. i have always repected my elders and youngers as well, i woudl hope YOU could do the same. but i guess you choose not too.

the last time i opened MY big mouth without thinking about it first and said something nasty to someone on these boards i lost a FRIEND. don't think for one second it can't happen to you too because it can.

have a good day!

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edited to add the line about losing a friend. 41|8|and deedra, since you decided not finish our conversation on the previous posts from the 28h......|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|08:59:42|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 08:59 AM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

i'm deciding to end our conversation here. i posted a VENT not about you or to you and you have choosen to make it as such. i am ending it and ending it now. please, do the womanly thing and do the same just as i did for you on the 28th. thanks :)

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42|9|Jackie, I have never been nasty in any of my posts....|ptmama525|ptmama525@aol.com|13:23:58|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 01:23 PM (Eastern) by 98.19.9.126

to you or anyone else, I was raised better than that and thats not my style.... our opinions differ, just as I guess we all interpert(sp?)things differently.
I am very respectful to others and try not to hurt anyones feelings.....I TRY to walk away, unless I am PROVOKED. I am HUMAN and CAN and DO make mistakes...I wish I had the willpower to keep my mouth shut at times, but I still don't feel I did anything life altering to make you keep harping on this.
Evidently we aren't going to accomplish anything, except maybe irritate each other (and others) by all this bickering back and forth.
Lets call a truce, you let it go and I will too.

21|4|or did you think that $ was for powerade co's?|pussecat|pu55ecat@aol.com|15:36:29|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 03:36 PM (Eastern) by 24.129.66.182

if so i don't have them yet.

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17|1|does anyone NOT remember the post begging people NOT to pay more than 30% for winetags...|blessedx5|I_am_blessedx5@yahoo.com|13:52:44|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 01:52 PM (Eastern) by 74.170.108.183

hmmm....seems most agreed on the subject back then...makes me wonder if it depends on who is posting........ 22|1|Just a thought.....with the change in the times, I think we've all had to adjust a bit to the 'going rate' for things....maybe it's time to re-evaluate what is considered 'fair', and sometimes it is an individual thing, such as doubling/matching with sales, etc. It is like supply-and-demand, the less a coupon was circulated/distributed the more it may be for the handling fees. I have my own personal limits on what I'll pay for certain types of coupons, that is all I can do to manage my own expenses for trading.|saint6811|waylan@comcast.net|16:20:59|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 04:20 PM (Eastern) by 98.213.161.195

"Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy." 23|2|those same coupons would go for 50% on ebay|Beaglesfly|lmllr77@aol.com|17:11:43|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 05:11 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

So your idea, Jackie, of what is "fair" or "good" is relative depending on lots of factors. Like someone else said, it's what the market will bear. If no one was willing to pay that price, the price would drop.

I laugh when I see people on here say things like "it's just a hobby", or "we're just here to help each other, so we should only charge such and such" (not referring to you Jackie). For some people, including me, coupons are a part of the way that our family survives (not just in using the coupons, but in selling them too when I have extra). It IS a business for me, not so much a hobby. And as a "business", I am going to charge (generally) what the market will bear rather than someone else's idea of what is fair or what is the standard.

Perhaps some people don't understand couponing as a real source of income rather than a hobby. I can't afford to offer a $1 coupon for .10 when I know people would easily pay .30 each for it. If I can get .50 each on ebay, but I know that people on the board would love these coupons and would pay .30 each without hesitating, I'll keep them on the board. But if I can only charge the standard .10 because you or others feel it's the right thing to do, then I'll go to ebay and sell them.

It's not a matter of GREED for me, it's a matter of helping my family survive in this day and age. If I had all the money in the world, I would offer them for .10 each, but I am poor....I can't afford to do that.

Lauren 26|3|about ebay...|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|18:29:19|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 06:29 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.75.215

I don't think ebay is profitable like it used to be. If you sell them here, yes you will get less per coupon but at the end of the day I think you would make more here. A lot of ebayers don't look at the total cost: sourcing, listing fees, final value fees, paypal fees, shipping fees. With the draconian policies in effect at ebay now, you can't even control your own business. After fees and expenses, it isn't worth it to make 1.00/hour, not to me anyhow.
What I have found is that good business happens when your customers don't feel like they are getting ripped off. For example...if you ask too much than the going rate for a coupon you can easily scare that trader off forever. Was it worth it? No. Even on ebay, giving repeat customers discounts and adding in tiny freebies go a long way to produce profits down the road.
I completely understand you need to make money, I did well on ebay as well. I lost too when I didn't factor in every cost, including my time. I never sold anything without checking the going rate and undercutting the competition. Think Walmart, high sales volume, lower cost per item. I learned very quickly how much I wanted to make per hour and anything that didn't bring that amount, I didn't list it.
Ebay aside...this site feels like a community to me and I don't consider the traders here like my customers on ebay. I see a lot of people who do help each other, it is more personal. Ebay is just cold hard cash and that is fine but I think it is different here.
I guess my main point is for you to consider, from start to finish, the total profit or loss per transaction and if you can do better here AND help others, that is more than good business, it is a wonderful thing to do. :) 27|4|I have considered from start to finish the total cost|Beaglesfly|lmllr77@aol.com|18:45:38|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 06:45 PM (Eastern) by 205.188.116.68

I don't know what kind of coupons you were selling, but if I sell three lots of 20 Propel .50/1 on ebay, that's easily $30 that I just made from those three lots alone (unfortunately, those types of coupons are far and few between). It would be foolish to only sell coupon lots that are going to sell for $1 - there's no profit to that after you take out all the costs.

In the end, there is just NO way I would make out better here than on Ebay overall, no matter how nice I am to my customers. And, yes, this is kind of a community, I wasn't saying that it isn't. My point was that some people don't realize or tend to forget that some people are on the board to ALSO make money and some of us can't afford to forego a higher selling price.

lauren

28|5|Have to add my two cents...|upallnightintexas|snickersat16@yahoo.com|19:10:40|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 07:10 PM (Eastern) by 71.123.242.108

I am constantly buying Iams dog food coupons on ebay and I pay up to $15.00 for 10 coupons, plus shipping... Yes, I will save $50.00 (normally they are $5.00 off coupons in lots of 10), after paying for them and shipping, I am still saving around $30.00 more...

so some coupons do go higher and it does depend on what you want.... ie hot coupons, propel, powerade and others are worth more if the person is willing to pay... we get double coupons here, so I am willing to pay more, because the item will be free, but even if it wasn't and I am still going to save some money, I would buy them.

I always check the board here or put an ISO out first, but then I go to ebay.... I would pay the same price here also, if they were available...

It all depends on the person purchasing the coupon, if it valuable enough for them, they will buy them...

I feel for all the people who are not in the land of doubles, but something is still better than nothing... even after buying them, if you were to still save .10 on 10 items, that is a dollar extra each time...

That is the way that I look at it....

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dvd certificates (please)
Oscar Mayer Lunchmeat coupons
Healthy ones lunchmeat coupons
New coupon potluck
New rebate potluck
cvs coupons
snapple, starbucks, nestle milk, sobe, propel, pace, pop tarts, frozen pancakes/waffles, vitamin water, any soda, powerade, hunts, banquet brown n serve sausage, kroger/tom thumb/albertson/target coupons
Cottenelle coupons off 1 (4 pack, not multi-pack) Nescafe Tasters choice off 1, Any of the new kraft coupons,
Animal Planet/Kaytee coupons or small animal (could really use these)....Rat, plus 2 cats, 1 dog, 1 puppy and a hermit crab
$4.00 Arm & Hammer Kitty Litter Coupons
BTFE
coffee/flavored sugar samples
any bath & body works or victoria's secret product


29|5|yep some items do better on ebay|cinda68|lacinda68@gmail.com|19:14:00|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 07:14 PM (Eastern) by 207.255.75.215

I completely agree some things do better on ebay. I honestly didn't sell many coupons at all, mainly cosmetics, etc. You just can't turn a profit with dollar auctions there, no way. My husband figured out the best price range to make profit is around $25 per auction. Any less and the paypal fees will kill the profit. Well, I am sure you know all this and it sounds like you do well on ebay.
I'm sure you know sellers are leaving there in droves due to the new policies and fees and if you can find a way to still make out, thats awesome. I have a few things I might put up soon but I need to review the policies and do more research before I put my feedback in harm's way.

About this site...I don't personally know a great deal of people here but over the years I have become very fond of it. I see you guys rally to help members, pray for each other and I come here first when I need coupons. (Ebay is my last resort for coupons). I have been on other coupon sites and this one is so much nicer.
I know you would probably agree this site is about friends, not customers. Or at least that is how it feels to me. I certainly don't mind paying more for a hot coupon, I am still paying less than full price. They may have a set price they want but I have a limit on what I will pay. I am, however, more inclined to take my wishlist elsewhere if I get that "business" feel from a trader.
Anyhow, thanks for the discussion and I hope we all can do well in the trying economic times ahead. 31|1|guess I am substandard |tollman62|thebossatnight@yahoo.com|19:50:50|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 07:50 PM (Eastern) by 74.70.243.72

I try to keep costs down overall and offset the cost of paying tuition. I am not the fastest at posting coupons so my posts don't always match sales because my job puts heavy demands on my time. I am always willing to look at offers if I ask .10 and somebody offers .08 I might take it, and of course I consider offers in stamps cash ppef and whatever else might be offered at what they are worth to me, I would be willing to take less in cash then in paypal depending on the deal. I will be bracing for a deluge in trade offers overnight while I am away at work.

bad traders GO AWAY!!!

I mail all my trades from the post office and get a receipt.

you always hear noises in the dark when you work at night 32|2|You're definitely not "substandard" in our book!!!|whitmarg|robin@whitmannet.com|20:20:17|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 08:20 PM (Eastern) by 96.237.162.148

:) 34|1|To use my DH's favorite reason for ANYTHING--- "Because they can!!"|Abbicca|Abbicca@bellsouth.net|22:05:17|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:05 PM (Eastern) by 216.78.203.7

And if someone wants to ask 25% for a HOT coupon.... I'll buy it if it is worth it to me. If it isn't worth it...I won't. If I can "shop around' and get them cheaper...I will look, but if I don't see them... 25% for a coupon still means I am at the VERY least saving the other 75% of that coupons value.... still a savings on something I need. In my case I CAN double up to .50....which makes them even more valuable to me.

It's all a numbers game...if I'm going to buy them item anyway, I'd rather use a coupon and NOT pay full price every time!!! If that means I pay 25% for the coupon.... heck even 50% for the coupon.... if that's the only place I can get them.... you betcha I'll take them!! I weigh how much the coupon is for--face value, if I can double it---therefore it's value TO ME, and how much I need/want the item it is for....all factor into what I'll pay for a coupon...or form.

I've paid for some coupons/forms....only to see them later cheaper...and if I start kicking myself, I just remind myself that if it was worth it at the time...it is STILL worth it to me!! I've also ended up kicking myself for NOT buying coupons/forms when I thought they were priced high... only to NEVER find them cheaper or available again...only for me to end up paying full price at the store---nothing worse than that!!! I would much rather help out another real person...who understands the value of coupons...than line my local store's pockets.

I've bought items on ebay when I couldn't find them here (and good luck trying to find the .50 Cottonelle on ebay for anywhere CLOSE to 25%!!!)

This is one of the FEW ebay auctions for the $1/1 Powerades already at 37%+ of face value:
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-COUPONS-SAVE-1-ON-POWERADE-ZERO-MAKES-THEM-FREE_W0QQitemZ150298761493QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150298761493&_trkparms=72%3A1205|;39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|

Last edited on Oct-02-08 at 00:43 AM (Eastern) by 216.78.203.7

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:05 PM (Eastern) by 216.78.203.7

And if someone wants to ask 25% for a HOT coupon.... I'll buy it if it is worth it to me. If it isn't worth it...I won't. If I can "shop around' and get them cheaper...I will look, but if I don't see them... 25% for a coupon still means I am at the VERY least saving the other 75% of that coupons value.... still a savings on something I need. In my case I CAN double up to .50....which makes them even more valuable to me.

It's all a numbers game...if I'm going to buy them item anyway, I'd rather use a coupon and NOT pay full price every time!!! If that means I pay 25% for the coupon.... heck even 50% for the coupon.... if that's the only place I can get them.... you betcha I'll take them!! I weigh how much the coupon is for--face value, if I can double it---therefore it's value TO ME, and how much I need/want the item it is for....all factor into what I'll pay for a coupon...or form.

I've paid for some coupons/forms....only to see them later cheaper...and if I start kicking myself, I just remind myself that if it was worth it at the time...it is STILL worth it to me!! I've also ended up kicking myself for NOT buying coupons/forms when I thought they were priced high... only to NEVER find them cheaper or available again...only for me to end up paying full price at the store---nothing worse than that!!! I would much rather help out another real person...who understands the value of coupons...than line my local store's pockets.

I've bought items on ebay when I couldn't find them here (and good luck trying to find the .50 Cottonelle on ebay for anywhere CLOSE to 25%!!!)

One of the FEW ebay auctions for the $1/1 Powerades is already at 37%+ of face value:


35|2|Seriously....don't like someone's prices? move on! I don't want to pay Macy's or Marshal Fields prices for my clothing.....so, I coupon shop at Fashion Bug. Picking and choosing where I spend my money and how has been a large part of my adult life. I would NEVER write and rant to Macy's that they have no right to charge $200 for a dress when I can get a dress at Kmart for $30. Whomever the coupons belong to has the right to charge what they want for them. They don't have to try to explain themselves and apologize for it...Once in a while I want a coupon that is going for higher than I want to pay or can afford to pay...so, I make a decision..either to trade for it or not. But I have NEVER begudged the other trader for charging what they want. BTW, if someone charges too much and no one trades for them....the prices will come down. If there is a market for them...then the prices is right.|Barb09|Barb0969@AOL.com|22:41:29|10/01/2008|

Posted on Oct-01-08 at 10:41 PM (Eastern) by 71.239.32.53

I looked and looked and found no coupons for troll food......SO, I don't feed the trolls!! 38|3|hey Barb|blessedx5|I_am_blessedx5@yahoo.com|06:14:50|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 06:14 AM (Eastern) by 74.170.108.183

wasnt it your post sometime ago asking for others NOT to pay more than 30% for winetags? Just curious about why this is any diffrent? Does it depend on who is posting? I hope this post isnt offensive because I dont mean it that way. 44|4|I asked people not to OFFER more than 30% as that drives prices up (gives the impression that is the going rate)....I would NEVER write someone asking for 40% (or more) and tell them they have to right to ask it. That to me is the difference.|Barb09|Barb0969@AOL.com|16:41:54|10/02/2008|

Last edited on Oct-02-08 at 04:47 PM (Eastern) by 71.239.32.53

Editting...as my line is stuck up there. I would NEVER write someone that asks 40% (or more) and tell them they have NO right to ask it....I would move past the post. That to me is the difference.

I stand behind anything I say or write and would STILL ask people not to post that they will pay more than 30%. Enough people do that and the asking rate will BE 40% (or more)

BTW, throwing in a HUGE thanks to those that stick with 25% or less...Debmac comes to mind as well as a few others.


I looked and looked and found no coupons for troll food......SO, I don't feed the trolls!!

I looked and looked and found no coupons for troll food......SO, I don't feed the trolls!! 45|5|oh...ok....|blessedx5|I_am_blessedx5@yahoo.com|16:57:05|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 04:57 PM (Eastern) by 74.170.108.183

its good to hear you are thankful to those that do offer the lower (or fair in your opinion) prices......... 36|1|Trying again..... |Abbicca|Abbicca@bellsouth.net|00:45:58|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 00:45 AM (Eastern) by 216.78.203.7

Wow...somehow my post got chopped...and if I try to edit it I get a BIG mess...so reposting!!!


And if someone wants to ask 25% for a HOT coupon.... I'll buy it if it is worth it to me. If it isn't worth it...I won't. If I can "shop around' and get them cheaper...I will look, but if I don't see them... 25% for a coupon still means I am at the VERY least saving the other 75% of that coupons value.... still a savings on something I need. In my case I CAN double up to .50....which makes them even more valuable to me.

It's all a numbers game...if I'm going to buy them item anyway, I'd rather use a coupon and NOT pay full price every time!!! If that means I pay 25% for the coupon.... heck even 50% for the coupon.... if that's the only place I can get them.... you betcha I'll take them!! I weigh how much the coupon is for--face value, if I can double it---therefore it's value TO ME, and how much I need/want the item it is for....all factor into what I'll pay for a coupon...or form.

I've paid for some coupons/forms....only to see them later cheaper...and if I start kicking myself, I just remind myself that if it was worth it at the time...it is STILL worth it to me!! I've also ended up kicking myself for NOT buying coupons/forms when I thought they were priced high... only to NEVER find them cheaper or available again...only for me to end up paying full price at the store---nothing worse than that!!! I would much rather help out another real person...who understands the value of coupons...than line my local store's pockets.

I've bought items on ebay when I couldn't find them here (and good luck trying to find the .50 Cottonelle on ebay for anywhere CLOSE to 25%!!!)

One of a FEW ebay auctions for the $1/1 Powerades already at 37%+
One of a few Cottonelle auctions is at 50%

I wish we could all double coupons, use expireds, find winetags NWPN, find CRT only forms, get NBPN forms, have SUPER DOUBLES, etc etc...but the truth is, no one has ALL that stuff. Oh heck...and I wish we all made over 100k too (let's dream big, while we're at it). I may envy Kristy her awesome super double deals...but I sure won't hold it against her that she gets them! Same with Barb and her using expireds....I'd love to be able to, but if I can't, I'm glad she can! And obviously Barb is willing to pay more for an expired coupon than I am--- that's her choice because it will help her. But I wouldn't argue because she was willing to pay more than me...nor would I argue with the seller for selling them to her at whatever price they agree on. I wouldn't ask anyone to sell to me for less for any reason..... race, income, age, disability, double coupon ability, blondeness...whatever. That isn't fair to the seller.

If someone is willing to sell for less....yes, they will probably get a special place in my heart and I will probably look for their posts before looking at others...but I can't argue with people asking whatever they want. It's my decision to buy or not...easy enough.
37|2|Barb & Deedra & Jackie !|cashcoll|cashcoll@yahoo.com|02:31:30|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 02:31 AM (Eastern) by 99.175.72.101


Barb - I do agree with what you said about the coupons.

If you can't afford someone's price then just move on same as with trading forms!


Deedra & Jackie, I just wish you two could just get along. Forget the past & go on without arguing with each other. I know it might of been a bad
expierence for both of you & sorry you had to go thru that. I have traded with both of you and would trade again & again!!


BELIEVE ME I have been into it many times with people on here and it's not worth it. Can't we all just TRY to HELP each other and think about our fellow traders and help them out as much as we can.


Sending you BOTH hugs and pray that life will be better for both of you!!


HUGS!
Teresa

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39|3|My .02 and it's free :) I think Deedra is a wonderful trader, and fast to ship . But, ya knew there was a but in here didn't you :)|eecwz|eecwz1@gmail.com |08:40:39|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 08:40 AM (Eastern) by 71.201.75.41

I have had many trades with Deedra and have asked her on many occasion if she would take a certain amount for a coupon. If she says yes I trade, if she says no I choose to trade or not to trade. My choice. And most of the time she does say yes to insultingly low offers.

I also, know how much work it is to cut, count, and get everything together and to the post office in a timely manner. And then hope the postoffice chooses to actually deliver the coupons, and that's a whole nother story. For that and several other reason I hardly ever post my coupons for trade anymore. You should see my living room/dining room, I am, I admit a lazy slothful trader.

On that note, I would like to thank Deedra and all the others that do the work so I can get FREE stuff, cheap stuff, overage and other great deals. And no we do not live in the land of doubles, but we do still have a store that takes expired coupons.

Thanks for all the great trades. Please leave me feedback here:
http://www.refundsweepers.com/dcforum/feedback/1094.html 47|3|I think prices will be whatever the seller wants,however i think one can get more reasonable prices , here are my solutions.|BMOREGAL|bmoregal2000@aol.com|17:41:14|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 05:41 PM (Eastern) by 65.30.192.216

I have several regular trader who share their finds...i only send winetags to my regular buds...if i see a free item going for a high fee i go to the Dollar store and buy 12 copies, with postage and other handling fees i come out ahead....if you nust buy,why not wait til nearly expired then prices drop,Another option is to post an ISO and state what you will pay...Hope this helps. 43|1|everyone's different but while I'm tempted to charge more for stuff I find I don't|glennie58|glenn_scott@alumni.ksg.harvard.edu|14:04:00|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 02:04 PM (Eastern) by 98.26.122.121

I have to fight that greed thing, for me personally it's gotten worse since we got so poor LOL but I hope to always
'underdharge' because I joined this board and people have more than not been really kind, and have continued to be so
over a long period of time, IMHO. And it's not sentiment but a sense of doing a good thing, even when I would or could
see my pp account growing instead of passing on the kindness I have received. When someone wants more than I can give
I just pass on it even if I really want it, because I hate how I feel when I feel like I've been taken advantage of kwim? 46|1|well said glennie|blessedx5|I_am_blessedx5@yahoo.com|16:59:23|10/02/2008|

Posted on Oct-02-08 at 04:59 PM (Eastern) by 74.170.108.183

I like that....... 48|2|Isn't it all determined by the market?|rumrunnergirl|rumrunnergirl@hotmail.com|14:06:58|10/03/2008|

Posted on Oct-03-08 at 02:06 PM (Eastern) by 207.69.139.140

I always check here to see what coupons/forms are trading for if I find any to trade. There is no doubling here, and I don't get a paper, so I pretty much only use what I can find on my own, or occasionally trade.

That said - when I do find "hot" coupons/forms and I want to get more to trade - wow, what a lot of gas and time! In the past two days I have driven well over 6 hours and used up over 1/2 tank of gas searching for forms/coupons. I do not have any "ins" with any distributors who hand me rolls of coupons like others I have seen. It takes a lot of time and effort on my part.

One form I have - I see others charging 3x as much, and others 1/2 as much as me. Who is to know what the "correct" trade value should be on anything?

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